Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x07 - "A Mathematically Perfect Redemption"

[jackoverfull]

Wow, this was incredible, a small movie more than an episode.
Initially I found the sudden character change halfway trough, with the quite unexpected romantic part, a bit far fetched but no, I’ve been played and Peanut truly is an horrible person. Well done!

And the way they built the Aerisolans us fantastic, recent “serious” Trek should really take notes: a single, short episode and I care for them.

I also liked that they forewent with the usual intro sequence, in fact I wish they had done the same last week, doing their own take on the DS9 intro.

And that ending…Well, one hopes all those mad supercomputers are never released! Not too clever to allow them to communicate with each other.

Nitpick: if the exocomp are considered people don’t they have rights? That hardly seems a humane prison. What has Peanut’s father have to say?

A very rare 10.

 

[jackoverfull]

* The Aerisolans possessed then abandoned warp drive. Did or didn’t Ensign Hamper violate the prime directive?

No, but no thanks to her, she thought she was.

Did Peanut face a trial/tribunal before being imprisoned? #sentientrights

I really hope so.

I'm also worried about the amount of megalomaniac computers in the 24th century that want to destroy organic life...

A commentary on the perils of AI, perhaps? Well, we met so many mad computers in Star Trek that they must be quite common.

I can't help but think if PH actually deserved to be placed with other evil computers... she didn't exactly show tendencies towards destruction of organic life, just selfishness and lack of general interest...

She did try to ally with the Borg. But yes, I think that kind of prison is extreme for the circumstances.

but now being wtih Agimus and other evil computers, she's definitely going to be influenced to become an evil sentient computer.

Starfleet should really know better. Prison should be rehabilitative, not punitive.

Hmm...structural integrity failure on the fourth wall. Erect Level 10 force field.

It was already there last season.

 

[jackoverfull]

A side note, am I missing someone or are Data and the Doctor the only artificial lifeforms that haven't been intentionally evil/destructive/callous?

apart from the examples mentioned above, we meet holographic sentient life forms in DS9 and Voyager which are not evil. Also a couple of episodes ago there was a sentient computer that was a coruler of a planet and presumably not evil. And of course Zora.

 

[cooleddie74]

Also the sentient holograms that the Rene Aberjonois character programs into the wreck of his ship in "Oasis(ENT)."

 

[jackoverfull]

If Peanut stays in Daystrom confinement until 2385, then she won’t live to the 32c. Any person who is an AI was probably killed on sight by Starfleet

I don’t think they went that far, especially with the lack of mention of the Doctor, which is in fact a sentient AI…

 

[Noname Given]

Also the sentient holograms that the Rene Aberjonois character programs into the wreck of his ship in "Oasis(ENT)."

Don't forget the sentient 'Killer' AI's' of the 23rd century (that Kirk all talked into logical oblivion, or blew up):

Ruk (Android who killed all the 'Old Ones...The One's who made us...Yes!')

Landru (Sentient AI that controlled an entire planetary population)

Nomad (Rogue Earth probe - with a little help from 'The Other'.)

Va'al (Another AI enthralling a clutch of Humanoids on an alien planet)

M5 Multitronic Computer - Federation made murderous AI.

Norman (Android AI from outside the Milky Way Galaxy. Granted they wouldn't have killed anyone in the Federation; but they would have controlled everyone.)

V'Ger (aka Nomad V2)

There's also a dishonorable mention to The Doomsday Machine (of the 420 Galaxy ); which was a simple AI designed for a single purpose, but an AI nonetheless.

 

[Turtletrekker]

"The Doobsday Machine"

 

[Verteron]

The Areore definitely gave me Avatar/Na'vi vibes. Not a bad thing - very cinematic!

 

[Amaris]

This one was okay, my first real disappointment of the season, but considering how high a bar has been set, it's still a solid episode. Some scenes I found funny, and I'm figuring they went for the tritefully cliche indigenous alien race at peace with nature, but it only kind of clicked for me. Still, decent episode, I don't regret watching it, but I do hope we get more time with our Lower Deckers next week.

 

[Deks]

I don’t think they went that far, especially with the lack of mention of the Doctor, which is in fact a sentient AI…

Indeed... though its possible Janeway and the VOY gang would have never allowed that.
Plus, while holograms ARE AI, they aren't androids. Maybe there was a distinction for holos in place (or perhaps for the Doctor because he was deemed to be a person)... especially because we saw Rios using holograms on his ship (and they are AI).

UFP didn't ban AI per say it seems... it banned synths... aka AI's in synthethic bodies, or maybe that's the distinction that SF made.

 

[Gilora]

Gave it a 9. It didn't get a 10 because I thought Peanut Hamper was going to redeem herself.

 

[Nerys Myk]

My first 9 0f the season.

 

[valkyrie013]

Huh... Okay.. 10.

And eww

 

[DaveyNY]

So apparently Peanut Hamper can also be a souped-up electronic version of a Fleshlight.

 

[Kraig]

So apparently Peanut Hamper can also be a souped-up electronic version of a Fleshlight.

Or a chicken choker.

 

[Turtletrekker]

She is fully functional.

 

[Kraig]

She is fully functional.

Even fowl.

 

[DaveyNY]

Even fowl.

Fowl like a Feather Duster.

 

[Charles Phipps]

I think it also pays to note that Peanut Hamper’s activities of arranging a Drookmarian pirate assault on her own wedding just so she could save the day and get back into Starfleet’s good graces isn’t just bratty selfish behavior. It’s genuinely Agrimus levels of EVIL.

Especially since as we repeatedly note in this episode, she could have called Starfleet at any time.

 

[Charles Phipps]

That was covered in the episode, Commodore Oh blackmailed Rios's Captain to kill them so as to advance the Zhat Vash agenda to eradicate all AI.

Which is another thing to consider, as head of Starfleet Security, Commodore Oh will undoubtedly arrange the destruction of all the Evil AI being held at Daystrom at some point, regardless if she has Starfleet consent or not. Though, she'll likely wait until after the Synth attack on Mars when it will take less convincing and less explanation and when others might even be eager to do this.

Oh by that time, Agrimus will have already led a mass breakout.