Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x01 - "Strange Energies"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Aug 11, 2021.

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  1. Tim Thomason

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    It's all factual until we learn otherwise in another adventure or series. I hope they don't retcon anything away, because it is a simple extrapolation and expansion of what we saw in WNMHGB.
     
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  2. Boris Skrbic

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    Even the captain logging preferential treatment for her daughter, who went on to wash an alien building without asking? Imagine Wesley or Robin Lefler doing that. The ensigns from “Lower Decks” (TNG) would be much too worried about causing a diplomatic incident. Ro would find it ridiculous.
     
  3. Uhura's Song

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    I found the Gary Mitchell/Where No One Has Gone Before references cool. The hand grabbing the ship is also a bit of Who Mourns for Adonis?, IIRC.

    Tendi going psychotic? Meh.

    But it was not that funny. I mean when the best gag is someone getting kicked in the nuts repeatedly? Six.
     
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  4. Commander Troi

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    8 for me. I love how Mariner works out her frustrations (I have someone I would leave like Boimler right now :devil:).

    "Apergosians have a deep relationship with numbers." Was that an Aspergers joke?

    Poor Tendi. I totally get her.

    The entire Ransom/Mitchell shtick was really funny for me. :lol:

    Frakes is having entirely too much fun!
     
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  5. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    All of it is factual. That's how fiction works. Until we get Star Trek: Historian set in the 26th Century we won't know what they "think".
     
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  6. NCC-73515

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    As EAS pointed out, imagine that reversed... :crazy:
     
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  7. Markonian

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    Not that I want to agree with EAS but I found the glee at the physical violence sobering.
    I can accept that Mariner had to kick Ransom in his cetacean ops but playing it just for laughs feels wrong.
     
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  8. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    It's classic lowbrow comedy.
     
  9. The Witch of Winter

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    My favorite kind of brow comedy.
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    Groin shots have been used for humor for a long time. Don't see that changing.
     
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  11. jackoverfull

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    By the way, why was mariner put in prison? Her side mission was authorised by the captain and she defused the situation the best she could, apart from the questionable act of insubordination towards ransom she didn’t do anything strange.
     
  12. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    It's how they say I love you
     
  13. Andyliini

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    I thought it was funny enough. Had some few chuckles and thought it had great amount of references to the past series of the franchise. The pre-credits sequence was probably my favorite, altough I never burst out lauching. Then again, I'm not that easily amused.

    7 out of 10 from me.

    I'm not sure if anyone else is bothered by this, but this animated version of Jonathan Frakes... Does not really sound like Jonathan Frakes. Like it was a voice impersonator instead.
     
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  14. Commander Troi

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    No, that was Frakes.
     
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  15. Boris Skrbic

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    The weirdest bit was that a Starfleet ensign would take it upon themselves to power-wash an alien building without worrying about causing a diplomatic incident. Commenting on another culture’s standards of upkeep? It’s a writing cheat to try and generate humor that way.

    I think the show would be much better if it was all about the nooks and crannies of Gene’s Vision. Make it as Roddenberry-boxed as possible, then bring up all the questions live action has avoided so far. People here have fun with the Vision all the time, so why not make a series out of it?
     
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  16. The Witch of Winter

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    Because Mariner's not your traditional Starfleet ensign. She's been busted down to ensign who knows how many times, and that's where she likes it. She's Chaotic Good, and there must be an accounting for that in Gene's Vision™ or else it falls apart anyway. It's not a cheat, it's people not conforming to just one type of behavior.
     
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  17. Sarcastic Vulcan Salute

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    She disobeyed Freeman's order to not do anything to Jack when Freeman thought she could calm Jack down with praise.

    She struck a superior officer repeatedly in the nuts.

    And as someone suggested, putting Mariner in the brig is Freeman's love language.
     
  18. Boris Skrbic

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    The problem is there is no such thing as “Chaotic Good” in live-action Starfleet. It’s been cheated into LDS for artificial attempts at humor. Since Starfleet officers are bound by regulations and get along just fine in general, then in accordance with Gene’s Vision you bring in outsiders like Lwaxana or Q in order to question the whole setup and cause varying degrees of trouble.

    But suppose LDS didn’t bring in outsiders and tried to have fun with the Vision in different ways, perhaps by having an ensign go on a vacation with actual money involved. Do they get a latinum allowance? If so, how is it calculated? Is there a list of allowed purchases? It could be speculative and funny at the same time, with no cheating whatsoever.
     
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  19. Tuskin38

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    Gene’s vision hasn’t mattered since he died
     
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  20. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    Gene's Vision is overrated.
     
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