Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 1x05 - "Cupid's Errant Arrow"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Sep 2, 2020.


Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Lieutenant

    17 vote(s)
  2. 9

    37 vote(s)
  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - Ensign

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  1. The Habs Fan

    The Habs Fan Commodore Commodore

    Mar 4, 2005
    Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
    I give this episode a 9. My favourite of the season so far and, among other things, was great seeing a bit of DS9 again.
  2. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

    Oct 24, 2012
    I LOLed when the Captain found out there was 2 people who lived on the moon, and that they were the only two because they were rich. Then she ordered the ship to fire =D.
  3. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Feb 4, 2002
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut

    Nah, this would've been more Reagan / Bush 41-era...and a different franchise.

    I hope she didn't have to find out...I do vaguely recall saying something about how I hoped she hadn't washed her hands in it.
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  4. thribs

    thribs Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 23, 2017
    Pretty good episode. I liked seeing the FC uniform and DS9. Shame the girl dumped Boimler.
    The jacket was pretty cool but it needed more zippers.
    Looks like we are getting TOS ships next week. Can’t wait.
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  5. Lucky

    Lucky Commander Red Shirt

    Jul 20, 2004
    I really enjoyed this one. Definitely my favorite of the series so far. I was also delighted by the Trip Tucker reference.
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  6. Shawnster

    Shawnster Commodore Commodore

    Jul 28, 2008
    Clinton, OH
    In a meta/break the 4th wall sort of way I agree with you. The references are great chuckles for the audience.

    From a "this is a supposed to be canon and not satire" point of view, these constant references to past Trek's are illogical, unrealistic, and take me out of the moment.

    Because, you know, each week the average person always references historical or semi-historical (in the sense that they are common Joes not in history books) from 200 years ago. Like each week we here someone at work refer to some random foot soldier or ship's officer from the 1820s.

    And I'd think some of this stuff would still be classified, like Gary Mitchell.

    As a satire of Trek, I love this show. And, yes, it is not Gene's vision. Roddenberry's mandate that humans worked out their problems and none of our main characters ever have conflict with each other has been completely tossed out the window. These are people who have petty jealousies and competitive egos. It's awesome.
  7. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 27, 2009
    USS Discovery-A
    Mariner knew who Gary Mitchell was, but Boimler didn't, and said he would look him up, which is a nice touch. Trip Tucker is a very obscure reference (neglecting the fact that he was Chief Engineer on the first Warp 5 ship, meaning he has quite a bit of historical value to him, regardless of his potential martyrdom on the eve of the Federation), but Riker and Troi knew all about Tucker 10 years prior and it seems Enterprise is the subject of popular holodrama. I have no doubt that Tucker is much more well-known than Gary Mitchell.
  8. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Apr 11, 2014
    I would think so, you know, with the whole first Warp 5 ship and all.
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  9. Nenya

    Nenya Commander Red Shirt

    Oct 14, 2019
    That’s why I believe in my head canon that this is a show within the Star Trek universe for cadets and not “actual” events happening within the universe. The references are just too much. Just like a lot of novels I have read. I don’t even know why I’m watching at this point.
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  10. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Apr 11, 2014
    Hopefully we're watching something fun and entertaining.
  11. frankieteardrop

    frankieteardrop Commander Red Shirt

    Feb 25, 2020
    Quark's Bar
    I might have squealed a little when the DS9-era uniforms showed up in that flashback.
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  12. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

    Jul 24, 2011
    Anyone have images or the trailer itself for next weeks episode?
  13. Skipper

    Skipper Commodore Commodore

    Jul 28, 2016
    We are supposed to have fun?!?

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  14. 1987SpaceGuy

    1987SpaceGuy Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Dec 27, 2019
    loved the various ENT (Suliban, Trip Tucker sprinkles) and DS9 mentions/cameos.
    Looking forward to each new episode!
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  15. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Admiral Premium Member

    Aug 31, 2000
    PEBCAK! Three miles west of COVFEFE!
    You jest, but sometimes I do wonder about some people...
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  16. UssGlenn

    UssGlenn Commodore Commodore

    Mar 5, 2003
    New Orleans, LA
    Time travel missions are often unexpected, so this could be a predestination paradox/time loop. But I haven't figured out the particulars.

    The key here is "as soon as a design is put in" on your ship. Starfleet R&D comes up with a new toy that everyone is buzzing about but it would only be issued to a few ships for field testing before being rolled out to the rest of the fleet. Both the Purple stripe Tricorder and the Scanner were being tested by ships other than the Cerritos.
  17. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 27, 2009
    USS Discovery-A
    Most of the little references at face value are fine. Contemporary references (mostly Enterprise-E, Picard & Worf stuff) are great, because those guys are pop culture icons of the day and just saved Earth (again) some months ago. Historical references seem to center around Kirk (already established as legendary and, btw, came back from the dead and then died again 9 years ago) and his crew. Quite reasonably, Burnham and the Discovery have never been mentioned, which is good because they're well-CLASSIFIED. The reference to Trip Tucker is also fine, as explained above.

    It's the totality of evidence that raises eyebrows (like Spock!). They've mentioned Kirk in three out of five episodes. They've mentioned the Enterprise-E twice, Q twice, it just seems a little incredulous the amount of references to things we know vs. major events and characters we don't.
  18. Tim Thomason

    Tim Thomason Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    May 27, 2009
    USS Discovery-A
    It could be like on Enterprise when Archer fought alien nazis. I just assume the guy they were assassinating (or "stopping by any means necessary") was a time traveler attempting to take Hitler's place or expand on his programs. It could be also that Docent doesn't know the full extent of the mission, and that was just his after-the-fact takeaway.
  19. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

    Apr 23, 2010
    okay-ish episode, dragged a little but was fun inbetween

    so far I like most of the characters, but Boimler has the potential to get very annoying from time to time
  20. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Oct 2, 2017
    I mean, I get Mariner is a nerd for these things. But there have to have been other famous captains to geek out about as well. Or things they did in-universe which are famous we never got to see.

    Actually, that would be awesome...if she did "Remember when the Enterprise..." and it was something that never happened onscreen. It would be canon some incredible absurd adventure happened that would have made for a fantastic episode...only it wasn't an episode.