Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x08 - "All In"
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Liked the episode, even though I just don't like these kind of bar/ casino-type settings. I thought the ending was very engaging, and say what you will, but they've done a very good job at getting us all very curious about the DMA origins and Species 10C. I have high hopes that they will stick the landing, and especially the line 'Everything we think we know about Species 10C-- we're wrong' suggests that we might be in for a twist..! Looking foreward to the final 5 episodes!
The other two face cards in the alien poker deck appear to be an Arcadian from 'The Voyage Home' and a Cardassian.
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There's Ferengi text above the fight ring. It's an english cipher, not alien words, but still.
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The Devore scanner does resemble one from Voyager
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There's Ferengi text above the fight ring. It's an english cipher, not alien words, but still.
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The Devore scanner does resemble one from Voyager
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Yeah.No, but they looked like one
Also they called them a Changeling, which is the official name of the species, with Founders more a title like Elders or Lords.
The generic terms used in Trek were shapeshifters, which Odo was referred to as before season 3.
Things I Enjoyed:
- DMA is a mining rig. This makes sense --- beings powerful enough to create and/or control it (though it could be out of control) might not even register the little ants in their rock-powered, crude machines.
- Species 10C in general is a really nice idea. In the 32rd century, the next step should be extragalactic frontiers, and What's Out There should be alien in a way that the residents of the Milky Way mostly aren't. If DISCO wants consistently universe-ending threats, this is the way to go. To me, it's a good extension of the show's smartest move: taking the show into the distant future.
- Glad they continue to give the bridge officers the spotlight. I wish it were in more ways than shoehorned conversation, as we've seen previously, so this felt like a step in the right direction.
- It was smart not to nod to the fact that Owo was hustling.
- Pretty good performances, all around!
- This episode focused pretty much entirely on its A-plot, so the scene with Stamets and Culber, while nice, just made me think: I wish there was a ship-side aspect of the mission that gave the crew something urgent to do; disable a shield, raise jammed comms, etc. etc. Just wish it had that second prong that could give the bridge officers more stakes and development --- though they of course did well with The Awesome Owosekun!
- The production design of this show is masterful, but I cannot wrap my head around the utterly mundane way they dress non-diplomat civilians on this show.
- If the programable matter tracker is hidden on the isolytium, why not just bounce then? Let Ruon and Book think they've won?
- The way this show consistently short-cuts things. This is inevitable, and most of the time, it's the equivalent of how every TV and movie phone conversation is totally unlike real ones. i.e.: people just beam away without visibly or verbally triggering their site-to-site transporter. Or am I just missing that? This happens a lot now. Again, this is very similar to how commbadges have always somehow had no delay.
- Away mission have always been silly ("Why take your CO, XO and second officer??") but I'm scrambling to imagine why you'd take your ship's tactical officer to this no-comms, no-weapons barge. Take Bryce, to translate if needed, take a security officer. Could be good development for Bryce --- maybe he learned a thing or two on his tour on the Curry. And if there was a ship-side element to the story, you could also develop Joann by having her, as tactical, run the crew portion of the story. Obviously, this is easier for me to say, I'm not in a crush to make this all work!
- DISCO is a show about personal relationships, and is emotionally driven, and that doesn't bother me, but it is strange that no makes (e.g. Burnham) the argument that whoever made this thing (even and especially when we still thought it might be a weapon) would kill everyone like ants upon the detonation of the isolytium bomb thing. Book's core trait is empathy. Would he not want to avoid the destruction of ... potentially all life as we knew it? I think the answer is "he is so desperate after his world was destroyed" but ... I dunno, it's not quite "there" for me.
- I think it's a fine choice but it bugs me that I don't know who the department heads on this ship are.
I think we know two of the department heads. Stamets is in charge of the spore drive department and Culber is, of course, head of the medical department.
This was one of the better episodes of the whole show. Just the new nickname of Joann "Oh Wow" Owosekun gives the episode a positive rating in my book. I love the extended cast, and that at least Kayla and Joann have gotten some expansion in this season and the last.
Bringing back a Changeling was cool. They kept the look of the species consistent, too.
Bringing back a Changeling was cool. They kept the look of the species consistent, too.
He's not the CMO.
I guess Spore Drive Ops is close to being the bulk of what previously would have been Warp Operations or something similar.
I honestly thought Dr. Pollard was the CMO!
Since she almost never shows up anymore by default it probably goes to Dr. Culber. She may have been intended as Discovery's CMO in Season 1 but clearly the creators don't have much of a use for her.
That's good. She needs to show up more often. Department heads shouldn't vanish for most of a season.
Huh. I always thought that Pollard was the head of the medical department.
Reno is the chief engineer, right?
Kayla's the pilot, so Owosekun's the navigator, I think. Ariam/Nillsson was the bridge liason with the spore drive. IDK why, but I assumed that she or Owo are the second officer.
Rhys is the head tactical, I assume. Since Bryce was the comms guy, maybe he is head of operations?
Yeah, as far as I know Reno is the overall chief engineer with Stamets heading the spore drive department which operates from a different room away from the main Engine Room and the warp core.
Is that still the case? I don't recall them referencing the CMO lately like they did in the first couple seasons, so I sort of assumed the CMO didn't volunteer to come into the future, and Culber got the position by default (since he outranks Pollard).
IIRC, there was an episode where Reno mentioned "the Chief" ordered her to do something, but I don't recall if that was before or after the time jump.
They really need to pin some of these jobs down so it's less confusing.
The original premise was not to focus on Department heads. Hence we had characters like Tilly and Culber and Reno who were not head of a department but had opening credit status and major storylines.
And I think that's a good move. It just really complicates things once your main character is the captain.
First Nero and now this. What does Trek have against miners?
Carbon footprint? 
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