Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x08 - "All In"

[dupersuper]

I liked this one. Seeing Michael and Book laughing and scheming and having each other's backs like they must've in their year working alone together really worked as a way to show how sad it was that they couldn't see eye to eye on this: it showed what they're in danger of loosing.

As with SFDebris, my ratings are based somewhat on the rest of the specific series.

Ok, I don't see what the broker has to gain from letting Book and Tarka even have a shot at the mcguffin. They are two wanted criminals, and the Federation has a huge bounty and probably a reward for them. Whatever money the broker could get catching the changeling cheater and whatever latinum Book and Tarka could scrounge up is nothing compared to what an interstellar government could offer as a reward.

I'm guessing his business would dry up very fast if word got out that he'd turn wanted people in...

 

[Skipper]

Sometimes I feel a little sorry for the actors who play the bridge crew. Even in the original series Sulu & C. series they had more space and lines than them and TOS was by no means an assemble show! I am not absolutely an expert in TV shows with large casts, but I struggle to remember another show with so many regulars who do so little

 

[Ralph O Ward III]

I liked the first half of this episode, but I thought it kinda bogged down at the casino. I do like the arc for Michael and Book.

So basically Unknown Species Ten C live in a Dyson sphere of some kind?

Have I mention I miss Tilly?



I miss Tilly.

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Perhaps 10 c is a lost Federation faction that got separated by the Burn and was using this Dyson Sphere to keep the emerald Chain out

 

[Yistaan]

Sometimes I feel a little sorry for the actors who play the bridge crew. Even in the original series Sulu & C. series they had more space and lines than them and TOS was by no means an assemble show! I am not absolutely an expert in TV shows with large casts, but I struggle to remember another show with so many regulars who do so little

I think the worst part is that Shatner years later got blamed for the lack of screentime for bridge crew in TOS somehow and he always said that he didn't have anything to do with all that.

Hope the same thing doesn't happen to Sonequa years down the line.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Did they...did they just reuse a plot point from 3 Ninjas?

Did she "Light this fat dude up"?

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Nobody else here thinking that the Borg might be the ones behind the DMA?
Considering that boromite is quintessential to create omega molecules.

Maybe they left the galaxy some time after Picard and perfected themselves elsewhere. Could also be that they gave up the assimilation business and harbor no bad intentions anymore (beside not caring about the worlds destroyed by their dyson sphere or whatever else is inside the Anomaly).

 

[fireproof78]

Nobody else here thinking that the Borg might be the ones behind the DMA?

No, because the Borg belong far away from any current Star Trek production.

 

[jackoverfull]

Nobody else here thinking that the Borg might be the ones behind the DMA?
Considering that boromite is quintessential to create omega molecules.

they said a few episodes ago that they checked them, the metrons and others and are not involved.

 

[Skipper]

I think the worst part is that Shatner years later got blamed for the lack of screentime for bridge crew in TOS somehow and he always said that he didn't have anything to do with all that.

Hope the same thing doesn't happen to Sonequa years down the line.

While I can imagine with a little effort that some of Captain Kirk's lines could have been uttered by the other characters, I find it really hard to imagine the same in Discovery. It is very clear that the authors have very little in mind for minor characters to do. In a very unscientific way, I'm sure the average number of words per episode uttered by Uhura, Chekhov, or Sulu is 3 or 4 times that of Bryce, Owosekun, or Rhys (and I had to check their names on Memory Alpha!)

 

[Unimatrix Q]

they said a few episodes ago that they checked them, the metrons and others and are not involved.

If i remember correctly the Borg weren't mentioned. Just the Q, the Metrons, the Iconians and the Nacene

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Sometimes I feel a little sorry for the actors who play the bridge crew. Even in the original series Sulu & C. series they had more space and lines than them and TOS was by no means an assemble show! I am not absolutely an expert in TV shows with large casts, but I struggle to remember another show with so many regulars who do so little

‪‪I completely disagree with that assessment. I know more about Detmer and Owo from episodes of Discovery than was ever mentioned or shown onscreen about Sulu and Uhura in the entirety of TOS. Neither Uhura or Sulu even had first names, ‪‪and ‪‪I’ve heard Joann Owosekun discuss her childhood on multiple occasions, and watched Kayla Detmer go through PTSD onscreen.

 

[fireproof78]

‪‪I completely disagree with that assessment. I know more about Detmer and Owo from episodes of Discovery than was ever mentioned or shown onscreen about Sulu and Uhura in the entirely of TOS. Neither Uhura or Sulu even had first names, ‪‪and ‪‪I’ve heard Joann Owosekun discuss her childhood on multiple occasions, and watched Kayla Detmer go through PTSD onscreen.

"San Francisco. I was born there." When did we learn this tidbit about Sulu?

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

"San Francisco. I was born there." When did we learn this tidbit about Sulu?

The Voyage Home is when he has the dialogue, and I’m pretty sure where the information originated.

If it was stated before the film it was in a tie-in book, not in TOS.

 

[fireproof78]

The Voyage Home is when he has the dialogue.

Huh, weird. You would think that TOS would give way more time to it's cast members

 

[Skipper]

Huh, weird. You would think that TOS would give way more time to it's cast members

Please remember that it was a different era and the characters did not spend time providing personal biographical information. In Discovery in 5 Minutes, the characters talk about their past more than Kirk did in 3 seasons.

 

[Skipper]

And I'm not saying if that's a good thing or a bad thing, it's just that it's a different narrative model and knowing information about the characters' past can't be a yardstick for comparing two series so distant in time.

 

[fireproof78]

Please remember that it was a different era and the characters did not spend time providing personal biographical information. In Discovery in 5 Minutes, the characters talk about their past more than Kirk did in 3 seasons.

Kirk is described as walking book with legs, and almost married a blonde lab tech. I recall those details from the first episode I watched.

The point is, the main characters get those background details. Detmer and Owo are not main characters.

And I'm not saying if that's a good thing or a bad thing, it's just that it's a different narrative model and knowing information about the characters' past can't be a yardstick for comparing two series so distant in time.

I don't use it as a yardstick. I just don't expect the bridge crew to get more development just because "Bridge Crew."

 

[Tuskin38]

Was it specifically mentioned that this changling was from Odos race?

No, but they looked like one

 

[Nerys Myk]

Wasn't all that engaged. The Casino/fight club stuff was by the numbers. On the plus side we found out more about the DMA and species 10-C

 

[Unimatrix Q]

No, but they looked like one

Odo switched the sides. If only Quark were alive to see this