Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x07 - "…But to Connect"

[137th Gebirg]

Perhaps the big bomb that was down in Qonos’ core finally went off. That would kill a bunch of them, but I suspect there should be some still floating around out there. The omission of the Klingons from any 32nd century events certainly is curious. Maybe some disease wiped them all out galaxy-wide.

 

[Photoman15]

PLEASE! NO KLINGONS!!!!!!!!

 

[nic3636]

In all likelihood the aggressive nature of their warrior culture led to their destruction. They are probably nomadic and significantly reduced in number. No longer a blip on the galactic radar.

 

[DaveyNY]

Bugger. The delegate from Dandelion Prime never appeared onscreen. What rubbish.

Ah, I thought I missed it.

 

[Kzinti]

as far as i'm concerned the less klingon we see the better lol

 

[Andyliini]

This was a strange episode to watch. The whole episode was about two parties talking, while very little action actually happened. Even so, the stakes felt real in the voting room, and development of Zora was also fascinating. Thankfully they have given Stamets some screen time this season, I remember almost nothing from him from season 3, but thankfully he's back as I really enjoyed Rapp's performance here.

The cliffhanger was all right, I did not feel huge stakes at play, but thankfully the story can go in many directions from here, and I'm intriqued to see what will happen when the series returns. Altough still no Prodigy for us, at least there is only 6 weeks before Discovery returns.

 

[thribs]

I like that she referred to Earth as just a founding member. They’re THE founding member. Without them the Federation would have never happened.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

A little heavy on the talking here, I think Trek is best with a mix of action and smarts, sometimes Discovery seems to lean too heavy on one or the other. I guess it's dramatic license but Book and Gray probably don't have any business being present at the discussions they were involved in.

The dilemmas are interesting. The thing that seems to get overlooked with Zora is that Starfleet members have had to prove themselves and get indoctrinated and tested along the way and earn their ways into positions of power (well maybe not Burnham...). The trust isn't simply given just by virtue of being known lifeforms. Book is a good example of why that's a bad idea.

Who would have ever imagined David Cronenberg of all people would have a prominent role in a series like this. They need to find a way to get him infected by some kind of gloopy space body horror just for old times sake.

How do those instant transporters work anyway? Do they read your thoughts as to where to go? I think there should always be a slight element of danger to using a transporter which bugs me a little with these. Does give it that kind of 50s space age wonder having them pop all over the place.

 

[TheMadCloner]

One interesting thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet:

Saru's speech to Book in the last episode probably helped motivate Book to go rogue. Interesting case of good intentions gone awry.

 

[Noname Given]

Unless the Klingons are either mostly gone or vastly reduced.
There was apparently a very long difficult time war involving most of the galaxy (Disco season 3)
The Klingons were involved in the temporal cold war to some degree (Broken Bow), whether they were aware of it then, or not.
The Klingons maintain time crystals, or did. One of the few things they seemed to really hold sacred and not just in lip service. (Disco season 2)
Klingons sometimes make really bad political decisions (almost the entirety of DS9) that their war prowess has no defense against.

Every other major power besides the Delta Quadrant and Gamma Quadrant species seem to have gotten some kind of mention.

Maybe they just lost, badly. 930 years ago, Venice was a major world power. Now it is a tourist spot slowly sinking into the Adriatic. Empires don't always survive.

IMO - It would be interesting if the Klingons effectively wiped themselves out in one final Klingon Civil War™

 

[Lakenheath 72]

There is a Klingon Zone on the star charts seen last year, with Qo'noS as the capital of this zone.

Going by the charts and the dialogue that we have available from the canon, the Klingons were a rapidly expanding empire from the mid-23rd century to the mid-24th century. However, they could not hold onto many of those claims as they reverted back to who had them before, were occupied by other powers, like the Romulans, or became neutral. By 2399, the empire had shrunk in size with a large area of space becoming neutral space. By 3189, they had reclaimed some territory in the Beta Quadrant. I would say that the Klingons were still around, they had their own government and an interstellar fleet for protecting their territory.

Charts used were seen in "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad" (DIS), "The War Without, The War Within", (DIS), "Maps and Legends" (PIC), "Die Trying" (DIS), and "There Is A Tide..." (DIS).

I like to think the Klingons were watching the assembly on remote and choose to abstain from voting. There were 60 delegates or so, yet the number of voting delegates (30 for, 20 against) does not match that number making it probable that some did abstain.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

There is a Klingon Zone on the star charts seen last year, with Qo'noS as the capital of this zone.

Going by the charts and the dialogue that we have available from the canon, the Klingons were a rapidly expanding empire from the mid-23rd century to the mid-24th century. However, they could not hold onto many of those claims as they reverted back to who had them before, were occupied by other powers, like the Romulans, or became neutral. By 2399, the empire had shrunk in size with a large area of space becoming neutral space. By 3189, they had reclaimed some territory in the Beta Quadrant. I would say that the Klingons were still around, they had their own government and an interstellar fleet for protecting their territory.

Charts used were seen in "Magic to Make the Sanest Man Go Mad" (DIS), "The War Without, The War Within", (DIS), "Maps and Legends" (PIC), "Die Trying" (DIS), and "There Is A Tide..." (DIS).

I like to think the Klingons were watching the assembly on remote and choose to abstain from voting. There were 60 delegates or so, yet the number of voting delegates (30 for, 20 against) does not match that number making it probable that some did abstain.

And there was also a cardassian zone on the charts and they are Federation members.

So i guess the Klingons are also members.

 

[cooleddie74]

We know the Klingons are members by the 26th century as told by Daniels in "Azati Prime(ENT)," so within two centuries of the Dominion War the Empire has formally joined and are full members.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

It wasn't bad but it wasn't exciting, either.

The lack of excitement is what made it so exciting

 

[Unimatrix Q]

We know the Klingons are members by the 26th century as told by Daniels in "Azati Prime(ENT)," so within two centuries of the Dominion War the Empire has formally joined and are full members.

Yes, but it seems to prove that they didn't left the Federation after the Burn and kept their membership all the time.

 

[Tim Thomason]

And there was also a cardassian zone on the charts and they are Federation members.

So i guess the Klingons are also members.

In the previous page, we see the votes "For" and "Against", and it shows apparent Cardassian, Vulcan, Romulan(?), and Ferengi symbols on both sides, in addition to the generic Federation symbol, but no hint of the recognized Klingon symbol (the three blades) in use. Also no UE symbol or Risa symbol that I can tell.

 

[DEWLine]

I also hope we get to see a "clean" version of the graphic depicting the DMA vote results at some point.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

We know the Klingons are members by the 26th century as told by Daniels in "Azati Prime(ENT)," so within two centuries of the Dominion War the Empire has formally joined and are full members.

I dont think anything Daniels says counts for definite given how much the timeline was getting messed with

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

In the previous page, we see the votes "For" and "Against", and it shows apparent Cardassian, Vulcan, Romulan(?), and Ferengi symbols on both sides, in addition to the generic Federation symbol, but no hint of the recognized Klingon symbol (the three blades) in use. Also no UE symbol or Risa symbol that I can tell.

There were three representatives from Ni’Var there, presumably each representing Vulcan, Romulan, and Romulo-Vulcan interests.

 

[DEWLine]

Negotiating the voting privileges of all who attended - in person and remotely - must've been an interesting and frantic exercise!