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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x04 - "All Is Possible"

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Malcolm: "So this is how the Coalition of Planets dies...to thunderous applause."
Malcolm Reed the guy with ties to Section 31?

(Romulan Senate Hall, Romulus, on the founding of the Federation and the close of the Romulan War. Romulan Senators screaming in terror as Malcolm Reed cuts them down with a Qowat Milat sword.)

Romulan Praetor: The war is over! Captain Archer... promised us peace! We only want--

(Reed chops off praetor's head)
 
Malcolm Reed the guy with ties to Section 31?

(Romulan Senate Hall, Romulus, on the founding of the Federation and the close of the Romulan War. Romulan Senators screaming in terror as Malcolm Reed cuts them down with a Qowat Milat sword.)

Romulan Praetor: The war is over! Captain Archer... promised us peace! We only want--

(Reed chops off praetor's head)
Reed: “Yesssh. Archer wants to get a head start on negotiationsssh.”

*fixes tie to John Barry music*
 
I wonder who counsels the counselor?
I'm wondering who actually made him counselor? Sounds like a self-proclaimed position honestly. Considering he beat up Tyler to try to avenge himself on Voq not that long ago...

Also, I know Trek has tons of "early installment weirdness" etc. and species have in the past been showcased in one episode only to be redone completely in all future installments (the Trill), but it's still very jarring that Book's species, which was originally described as killers and poachers and Book's connection to other life forms described as an aberration within his family, suddenly got turned into his entire species having a connection with life forms and him mourning people who are suddenly just like him when they were initially portrayed as the exact opposite.
 
So... Why was the giant squid a threat to the hull of a shuttle that could survive an uncontrolled orbital impact?

It wasn't (at least I don't think). The way I see it, Tilly and her entourage had to establish contact with the Armstrong and the way I understood it was that the comms signal wasn't going through from their vantage point. Reminds me of what Quark and Odo went through when they crashed a runabout and had to walk in freezing weather up the mountain to get a clear signal... only problem here is that a ridge isn't nearly the same as a mountain.... and seemed like a very small thing which wouldn't necessarily impact the comms signal.

What I'd ask further is: 'why was a gamma ray enough to knock a 32nd century advanced shuttle out of warp and send it spiralling down to a planet'?
Ah well... 'because the story demanded it' seems like the only thing that could explain it. :D
They could have had the anomaly be the reason for suddenly disrupting the shuttle's Warp drive... because that would seem a bit more legit.

Otherwise, it wasn't a bad team building exercise/away mission... and seemed like an overall ok sendoff for Tilly.
 
That should be the focus of next season. The Fed tries to get Earth back and find out that it's been turned into a hedonistic, money-fueled world ruled by megacorporations rivaling even the darkest cyberpunk stories.
If I finally get the Perfect Dark/Deus Ex/Star Trek crossover I've been dreaming of since college I'll be happy.
 
I'm wondering who actually made him counselor? Sounds like a self-proclaimed position honestly. Considering he beat up Tyler to try to avenge himself on Voq not that long ago...

Also, I know Trek has tons of "early installment weirdness" etc. and species have in the past been showcased in one episode only to be redone completely in all future installments (the Trill), but it's still very jarring that Book's species, which was originally described as killers and poachers and Book's connection to other life forms described as an aberration within his family, suddenly got turned into his entire species having a connection with life forms and him mourning people who are suddenly just like him when they were initially portrayed as the exact opposite.

Eh. Book's dead "brother" wasn't related to him by blood or even through adoption, so it could be explained away as his actual birth family being the shitheads.
 
@eschaton
Good catch. Next we'll see Culber with Book in the holodeck, watching Book cheer in a holographic recreation of his biological family being burned up, while Culber beats up a holographic Tyler (Hi Shazad!) and then Culber will give an evil look at the camera and we all shudder wondering how this guy became a counselor.
 
It wasn't (at least I don't think). The way I see it, Tilly and her entourage had to establish contact with the Armstrong and the way I understood it was that the comms signal wasn't going through from their vantage point. Reminds me of what Quark and Odo went through when they crashed a runabout and had to walk in freezing weather up the mountain to get a clear signal... only problem here is that a ridge isn't nearly the same as a mountain.... and seemed like a very small thing which wouldn't necessarily impact the comms signal.
Quark and Odo had the excuse of climbing an entire mountain, one that was large enough that the atmosphere noticeably thinned upon reaching the summit.

Tilly and the cadets just climbed up a twenty foot ledge...

Also they had a mostly working shuttle they should have been able to use to just fabricate a new distress beacon...
 
Quark and Odo had the excuse of climbing an entire mountain, one that was large enough that the atmosphere noticeably thinned upon reaching the summit.

Tilly and the cadets just climbed up a twenty foot ledge...

Also they had a mostly working shuttle they should have been able to use to just fabricate a new distress beacon...

My point exactly about Odo and Quark vs Tilly and cadets analogy... the ridge I don't think should have come anywhere close enough to allow communications in that case.

Apparently, Disco writers opted to NOT use programmable matter for repairs in the field. Even though its quite clear they can use it for exactly that.
Ah well... chalk it up to one of those 'intentional forgetfulness' scenarios Trek is famous for.
Heck even replicators weren't used to their full extent in the 90-ies era (but hey, back then we knew they were energy intensive so that was a viable 'excuse' more or less for doing some of the things that are energy intensive with them in the field (if you're away from a star system that is)... but somehow, its a lot more difficult to get away with something like that given the portability of technology, repair kits, and general availability of programmable matter - and how much more 'advanced' everything is always stated to be.
 
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Discovery is finally not letting technology or technobabble get in the way of good storytelling, and now it’s being criticized for what some people wanted all along?

Would it have made a huge difference if the ridge was depicted as being taller? Is that detail actually critical to the crux of the story?

The show seems like it can’t win sometimes.
 
Would it have made a huge difference if the ridge was depicted as being taller? Is that detail actually critical to the crux of the story?
I thought of El Capitan in Star Trek 5 and wondered why the flying boots Spock had are not basic equipment by the 32nd century. They could all have flown to that ridge.

Picard is already visiting the 21st century.
Thanks for reminding me that both Picard and Discovery did their evil AI storylines at the same time. I'm now fully expecting corrupt, megacorp controlled cyberpunk Earth in Disco next season.
 
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