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Spoilers Star Trek Discovery 3x13, That Hope is You Part II - Promo trailer

The Lower Decks season finale beat the pants off all of those.
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Only because they were in a situation that they could communicate.
8472 in the earlier episodes just didn't care and were killing everything.
It was nice they addressed that in the episode:
SEVEN: Your galaxy will be purged. Sound familiar?
 
Only because they were in a situation that they could communicate.
8472 in the earlier episodes just didn't care and were killing everything.
They were communicating with kes. Janeway probably could have tried using kes as an intermediary and relayed how the milky way galaxy has suffered under the terror of the borg.
 
Dramatically speaking, it should be Vance and Osyraa punching it out as they've been fighting for years before Burnham came along.

Burnham dealing the finishing blow to Osyraa would be like Wrath of Khan's Saavik or David Marcus beaming over to the Reliant for a final duel with Khan while Kirk lies unconscious on the Enterprise bridge or something.
 
Same with janeway. Man she could be full of shit sometimes. Like when janeway gave that smug 'i told you so' speech after Voyager tried allying with the kazon and it went south.
The thing that pissed me off about that episode is she should have evacuated everyone in that room, particularly the Kazon leadership. With only beaming herself and the Trabe she played into the betrayal. Stupid decision-making. In my humble opinion and I will be silent now....
 
Dramatically speaking, it should be Vance and Osyraa punching it out as they've been fighting for years before Burnham came along.

Burnham dealing the finishing blow to Osyraa would be like Wrath of Khan's Saavik or David Marcus beaming over to the Reliant for a final duel with Khan while Kirk lies unconscious on the Enterprise bridge or something.
Nah. Vance is the Saavik or David not the Kirk.
 
Nah. Vance is the Saavik or David not the Kirk.

Honestly, Vance is basically just Anson Mount's Pike copied.

He's a handsome, prematurely grey man who is there to look reasonable and authorative, but will immediately buckle to whatever the real protagonist of the show needs to do, because of the needs of the plot.
 
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Honestly, Vance is basically just Anson Mount's pike copied.

He's a handsome, prematurely grey man who is there to look reasonable and authorative, but will immediately buckle to whatever the real protagonist of the show needs to do, because of the needs of the plot.
I hadn't thought about it until now, but I think you're right. They liked the Pike character, and didn't want to lose him, but they couldn't keep him, so they created Vance to be a similar character as a workaround. In the process: they made him an Admiral to fill the void left by Cornwell, so one of Discovery's own crew could become Captain instead of having a fourth Captain who's new to the series after Georgiou on the Shenzhou, and then Lorca and Pike on Discovery itself.
 
Since the title of this episode is “That Hope is you, part 2”, I go on a limb and predict that Federation survives and we see Sahil again.
We live in hope. Personally I want him to show up as this seasons king Theoden

I'm actually disappointed that Sahil wasn't seen since the first episode.
This season went into different directions, but I think they made the number of episodes too short (13).
I think 15 episodes would have worked better to expand on things properly. Also, I noticed that the writers seemingly decided to progress a given story arc (or mini arcs) every other episode.
Instead of needing 15 episodes they could have stuck with 13 and not given us 2 utterly useless MU episodes

Must be awful to have no control over what you watch.
I get that you can turn it off but sadly for now we have no control over what Trek we get to watch

The Lower Decks season finale beat the pants off all of those.
Best Trek episode since the end of DS9
 
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