Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Nov 25, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Worth the wait.

    19.5%
  2. 9

    19.9%
  3. 8

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  4. 7

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  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - They should have stopped at "II".

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  1. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    1.ENT Archer was the great white hope
    2.TOS Kirk and Spock were the great white and green hope
    3.TNG re Borg Picard or Data were the great French/Android hope
    4.VOY Seven was the great Borg hope

    5.DISC Why can only Burnham solve all the problems?????

    My response, see 1-4
     
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  2. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yup. #maincharacterproblems.
     
  3. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Hell, the Federation exists in the first place because of Archer. Without him none of the others in later series and generations have a great democratic institution to save.
     
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  4. Pubert

    Pubert Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Ok. Cool.
     
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  5. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Cartoon Premium Member

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    It's a fictional element. It will do and not do what the writers need it to do. "The Burn" is just the plot thread holding the season together. It moves the characters from place to place, gives them a goal and focus. The core of the stories will be about people, places and situations this quest places our characters in. There's not gonna be 50 minutes of them talking all sciencey about Singularity Drives as much as Treknologists want there to be.
     
  6. USS Fardell

    USS Fardell Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Unification III
    The seventh episode of the third season. Discovery heads to Ni'var, formerly known as Vulcan, to obtain more data on what may have caused the Burn. Saru decides to assign Tilly as a temporary First Officer. There are many aspects to this episode. The outcome of Spock's efforts towards Vulcan-Romulan reunification was interesting to see. But first, the surprise Burnham and Saru show regarding the relationship between the Vulcans and Romulans was well done, as was Admiral Vance's explanation.
    Spore jumping to Ni'var, Discovery takes their government by surprise. Also surprising is the amount of blue on the planet. The Romulans may have contributed to some low level terraforming efforts/recovery from the Pre-Sundering wars. The nature of the Quorum also reminded me of the Minbari Grey Council in Babylon 5, which has a similar structure. The biggest difference being, the Minbari have Caste divsions – Religious, Warrior and Worker; whereas the Ni'Var have entho-cultural divisions – Romulan, Romulo-Vulcan and Vulcan.
    The Grey Council also has nine members rather than three. But that isn't really the focus. Burnham's request for the data on the SB19 project threatens to re-open the old divides between the various factions on the planet. That her mother, Gabriel, is a member of the Qowat Milat was a surprise, but it was a pleasant one. Of course, this leads to a confrontation about Michael's motivations and convictions about the cause of the Burn. Has she really changed since the Battle of the Binary Stars?
    Spock's legacy regarding Reunification is frequently referred to. Certainly he started the ball rolling, as it were, but many other people, both Vulcan and Romulan continued the work. Interesting that it was the Romulans on Ni'var who wanted to remain part of the Federation rather than the Vulcans. The way some of the crew members were supporting Tilly in the situation she has found herself in was done well. Overall it was a good episode. 8.6/10.
     
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  7. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Maybe we will get the Treknology show once they run out of other ideas and higher EAS as consultants.
     
  8. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Vice Admiral Admiral

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    They need to cast the Trekyards people and call the show This Old Starship.

    Base it off This Old House with Bob Vila.


    Anyone else remember this show?
     
  9. donners22

    donners22 Commodore Commodore

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    You skipped the show where the main character was conceived through the actions of god-like aliens so that he could fulfil his destiny, become a key religious figure for a whole planet, essentially win a war and then transcend humanity.
     
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  10. gblews

    gblews Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Capt Kirk was FAR from a household name while TOS was in production. In fact, TOS and Kirk didn’t get really popular until the 70’s after the movies began and long after TOS was cancelled.

    For that matter, no one knew how popular Patrick Stewart, TNG, or Picard, would be in TNG’s third season, which also happens to be where DSC is right now.

    So for the record, at this point, despite the conclusiveness of your statement, you actually have no way of knowing how popular Burnham may end up being. Who knows what might happen with Burnham and DSC in the 2030’s. ;)
     
  11. donners22

    donners22 Commodore Commodore

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    The problem is that they essentially did that last season with the red bursts. It’d be a bit too familiar to go on another MacGuffin hunt.
     
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  12. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Mcguffin hunts are tight in 2020.
     
  13. AresB

    AresB Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Building and mending bridges is another theme of this season, and that's what they were doing with the Vulcans.
     
  14. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    That's just flat out BS. Firstly it's more defense by whataboutery but also

    TNG re Borg so ya Picard and Data stopped the Borg ( except for the time Riker did) but the Borg were only a small part of the show.

    7 came nowhere near saving the day every time in Voyager and she takes a back seat in a number of episodes
     
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  15. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I really hate that they confirmed his divinity. It was better when the viewer could decide themselves whether they were gods or aliens. Same thing happened in BSG when the religion was ambiguous in the early seasons
     
  16. Discofan

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    Win a war!!! That's nothing! Picard saves humankind from extinction!!!!
     
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  17. Discofan

    Discofan Admiral Admiral

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    Actually, the wormhole aliens are not gods. For one thing, they can be destroyed by people, with a beam of particles and they nearly were, in that episode where Keiko is inhabited by a pah wraith. That's not very godlike, is it?
     
  18. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I liked in the early seasons when you had a sort of Dax v Kira thing about the nature of the prophets but having them actually set up Siskos birth was a bit too much for me. Im sure someone will tell me "but they already done this thing in that thing" to try tell me I'm wrong bit for me the divine birth was the point the prophets story went too far
     
  19. Gilora

    Gilora Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Correction: Archer was the great pink hope. /Shran

    And let's not forget the Emissary to the Prophets.
     
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  20. cooleddie74

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    [Paris Hilton] That's hot. [/Paris Hilton]