Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x07 - "Unification III"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Nov 25, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Worth the wait.

    19.6%
  2. 9

    20.0%
  3. 8

    22.5%
  4. 7

    14.2%
  5. 6

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  6. 5

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  7. 4

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  8. 3

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  9. 2

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  10. 1 - They should have stopped at "II".

    2.9%
  1. Commander Richard

    Commander Richard Licenced to Post Premium Member

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  2. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I hope this is gonna be a special one with not just an interesting title
     
  3. Saul

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    I hope nobody cries this week.
     
  4. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    This.

    I'm getting sick of the melodramatic tears. It happens so often that it doesn't feel authentic anymore and thus I feel nothing.
     
  5. Aragorn

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    When you're burned, you've got nothing: no starship, no credit, no Federation history. You're stuck on whatever planet they decide to dump you on. You do whatever work comes your way. You rely on anyone who's still talking to you. A trigger-happy Bajoran. An old friend who used to inform on you to Section 31. Family too... if you're desperate. Bottom line? Until you figure out who burned you, you're not going anywhere.
     
  6. NCC-73515

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    Politically sensitive suggests that it was an ally or a member... Vulcans did it? Or Romulans did it, but they're friends with the Vulcans now?

    Generally, in any random episode, I would agree. But if there is a scene where she learns of Spock's life and fate, it would be odd if she doesn't react emotionally. She grew up on Vulcan. Perhaps she also learns what happened to Sarek and how Amanda died, etc.
     
  7. Firebird

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    If they could just get the knack at writing emotional moments that are earned, they wouldn't have to lean so damn much on trying to manipulate the audience into caring about character beats they haven't been investing in.
     
  8. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Well said.
     
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  9. Agony_Boothb

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    Bro there was crying in the promo.
     
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  10. DaveyNY

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    I like that picture of Spock.

    Made me cry thinking about him.

    :p
     
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  11. Saul

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    Oh gods damn it.
     
  12. Lord Garth

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    Speaking of BSG, Season 4 just called.
     
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  13. Lord Garth

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    You either connect with the characters or you don't. I connected with them from Season 1, Episode 1. So I cared about what happened to them from the beginning.

    If you don't connect with them, nothing will feel "earned", because you're not invested in what's happening and you don't feel connected to it.

    The result makes it look as if we're watching two different series. Because you interpret what you're watching one way and I interpret it another. It's like "Emissary" when Sisko and Dax's Runabout lands inside the wormhole. Sisko sees storms outside and Jadzia sees beautiful greenery. Then, as they talked, they had no idea what the other was talking about. "You have a strange eye for beauty, Dax." That's what this is.
     
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  14. saddestmoon

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    Hmmm... so Spock will be remembered as last logged as travelling to Romulus in a Jellyfish starship laden with red matter on a desperate errand to prevent catastrophe...
     
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    The danger with a title like this is expectation immediately goes off the chart. I mean, I will be really pissed if there’s no mention of Spock and how his life played out. If they do that well enough, there WILL be tears this week—mine! But really, I’m trying to keep expectations in check. Bring it on.
     
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  16. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    the fanboys will, as always
     
  17. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They had the tech to scan alternate timelines in Voyager's 29th century future as well as Enterprise's 30th, and Georgiou's interrogator seemed to know all about her and her universe so I won't be surprised if they know all about the Kelvin Universe too.
     
  18. Markonian

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    In the non-canon Star Trek Online game, Daniels easily visits - and calls it - the Kelvin timeline.
     
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    Exactly so. I am constantly reminded, especially this season, of "Balance of Terror." I didn't know Tomlinson or his bride long but I still felt for him dying. Is that melodrama? Maybe. Was I invested. Sure thing!

    At this point, this show cannot earn anything. It is what it is.
     
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  20. Yistaan

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    I don't know why people have hangups over crying to be honest, but it's your opinion and that's fair. My opinion is that considering how the crew has lost literally everything they ever knew, there realistically should be more crying. This out of universe "crying is bad" is exactly the same thing that causes Detmer to break down in-universe, and people in real life, because everyone's expected to act macho all the time in reality and, apparently, in fiction.

    I guess it just hits a nerve with me because people (not anyone here, in general) say "Oh, they should have been honest about their feelings etc. instead of killing themselves, turning to drugs/crime, etc." and then the moment someone does cry and open up they are treated as "wimps", "God helps those who help themselves", etc.

    If the crying bothers people so much, they don't have to watch Discovery and can send their money straight to rivals Witcher and Mandalorian on Netflix and Disney Plus, where everyone acts macho all the time no matter the circumstances. No judgement if you quit the show, I myself quit Lower Decks after Episode 5 and only stay on CBS for Picard and Discovery.