Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x04 - "Forget Me Not"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Nov 4, 2020.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Quite a trill ride, I mean thrill ride!

    28.4%
  2. 9

    32.3%
  3. 8

    19.2%
  4. 7

    10.5%
  5. 6

    3.5%
  6. 5

    2.6%
  7. 4

    0.4%
  8. 3

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  9. 2

    1.3%
  10. 1 - Depressing.

    0.4%
  1. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    That's the one where the memories/personalities are put into someone else.
    Them actually appearing to the current host in a ghost like manner is called the Rite of Emergence.

    https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rite_of_Emergence
     
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  2. Sarcastic Vulcan Salute

    Sarcastic Vulcan Salute Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I wish for a second that people who had issues with the lack of a straight human male character in an episode or a series could experience a smidgen of what it might be like to watch a show or an episode where there are either no characters who are women, people of color or LGBTQIA+, or where those characters were either marginalized or token.

    I'm compelled to point out that the stereotype of Kirk as a horndog is pretty well exaggerated. And who says he would have to go through all the women first?
     
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  3. wayoung

    wayoung Commodore Commodore

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    As someone who has went through a lot of trauma this episode hit me hard. It was difficult to watch and also honest. It was very hard not to break down.
     
  4. Jackson_Roykirk

    Jackson_Roykirk Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I do like how they chose one of the more outwardly tough characters in Detmer to highlight the issue. Admittedly, I have not been through the type of trauma being discussed here, but I thought it was a good idea to show that it could affect anyone.

    I also liked it how they are showing us that the warning signs may not be immediately obvious. I'm thinking back to the scenes (in episode 2 maybe?) on the bridge when Detmer was questioning Saru's orders. At the time it did seem strange, but I didn't think it was PTSD.
     
  5. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I do hope they are careful with Detmer and don't just make this a
    "hotshot risk taking daredevil pilot/driver/barman loses his friend and his mojo and has to quickly regain it with the help of a good woman in time for the big battle/race/busy Saturday night shift" young Tom Cruise style story
     
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  6. wayoung

    wayoung Commodore Commodore

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    Not just Detmer, the entire crews Trauma plus Adira in the pool, and the admission that they're all not ok, and won't easily be OK.
     
  7. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    All those decades when straight, white males dominated TV/movie characters must have been such a burden to watch....
     
  8. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    TV was great till they shoehorned Mr. T into The A Team and it all went down hill from there. Gone are the good old days of real men you could look up to on TV like Rock Hudson and Montgomery Clift
     
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  9. Reyman

    Reyman Commander Red Shirt

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    What does some reviews calling the episode a chick flick suddenly have to do with race?
     
  10. Nyotarules

    Nyotarules Vice Admiral Moderator

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    The same reason why you ignored the word straight and picked up the word race
     
  11. Reyman

    Reyman Commander Red Shirt

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    I didn't need to pick up on straight because I was the one that mentioned "straight male" in the first place.

    You for some reason decided to add race to it.
     
  12. T'Bonz

    T'Bonz Romulan Curmudgeon Administrator

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    I rather enjoyed this episode (just saw it tonight). I wonder about the presence of Gray though.
     
  13. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    And yet us Asians rarely ever get Main Billing or are the Star of our own TV shows in the US.

    Heck, Blacks, Latinos, LGBTQAI+ all get front billing over us Asian Americans.

    Heck, we haven't even had a Asian American Captain as the head of a Trek TV show.

    Michelle Yeoh was the closest we got, but they turned her into the Terran Empreror instead.

    And don't forget Hollywood and the lack German Representation or many parts of Europe to be portrayed in StarFleet as lead characters.

    We've had more Americans & Canadians on the show, but no Australians or New Zealanders.

    Heck, what about Arabic Characters? Indian Characters, Mongolians?

    There are entire Ethnicities on Earth that aren't represented what so ever in Trek or on TV.
     
  14. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Am I right in thinking the closest we got here were 2 English guys.
     
  15. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    If you're talking about UK/British representation?

    Scotty was supposed to be from Scottland.
    JLP = French, but portrayed by a British Actor
    Malcom = Reed, portrayed by a British Actor

    No Irish Character, No Welsh Characters

    No truly French Actors and lack of EU representation.
     
  16. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Worf in the 23rd Century Premium Member

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    Colm Meaney as Miles O'Brien?
     
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  17. fireproof78

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    TIL-O'Brien isn't Irish :wtf::eek:
     
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  18. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    Honestly, he slipped my mind at the time of the post, his name fell into the Scottish bucket when I was trying to remember.

    My bad, human memory error.
     
  19. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    No I meant that the closest we got to Indian or Arabic were Bashir who is a British Indian character played by an Arabic actor and Clem Fandango/Vok who is a British/Asian/secret klingon played by a British Asian actor.

    Also Reed was an English character as well as actor
    Crusher was from fantasy Scotland planet and La Sirenas holograms covered all the bases
     
  20. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    I think La Sirena's Holograms were hilarious and gave the actor alot of fun material to work with =D

    Plus, with their Han Solo Archetypes, they gotta make him go shirt-less at some point to appeal to the numerous fans male & female fans.

    Remember Booker went shirt-less and that's some real fan service for male & female fans too!
     
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