Hey, the 12 Monkeys series is absolutely bonkers, but its probably the best time travel series ever made. YMMV, of course.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"
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Hey, the 12 Monkeys series is absolutely bonkers, but its probably the best time travel series ever made. YMMV, of course.
And was it correct? Obviously not. Just like this one made in 1569 before the entire world was properly mapped out. Nobody claimed the map of the seven appearances was an accurate one made by perfect equipment for measuring RA tachyon bursts. It was merely based on the information they had at the time with whatever equipment they were using. Are not people in star trek ever allowed to have inaccurate information when a story starts off, ever?
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Actually I enjoyed the reboot movies for the most part. I did take issue with certain creative choices such as making them so sexist despite having a clean state, embarrassingly incorrect science (my friend's 8 year old was pointing out that supernovae and black holes don't work like that), universe-busting changes to technology because somebody said, 'wouldn't it be cool if...,' and the ludicrous bubble gum version of Starfleet that promotes cadets to senior command positions because they like the cut of their jib (as long as they're men, obviously).
There were so many great things such as pacing and performances but as somebody mentioned above, they just need a science/science fiction script editors to edit out some of the stupid.
You can have a great action flick or series without it being stupid. Quite often tiny tweaks will do it.
I briefly thought the same, that we were going to see the 1964 Matt Jefferies version.
This new reimagined Discoprise has grown on me, I like it a lot more now than the JJPrise.
And many times, across all series of Trek they still let silly takes on actual science occur, even in the most beloved episodes of all time.
Actually, 12 Monkeys the movie was great. I couldn't get past the bit of the series where he scratched the past version of the watch and a scratch magically appeared on the future version . Sigh. If he'd scratched the watch in the past, it would already be on the watch. That scene is the opposite of what the movie was about!
Future Man is having fun with time travel paradoxes though to the point where the characters don't give a crap what happens to their past selves because they know they're in an alternate timeline .
Very true but that doesn't mean they should stop trying and it doesn't mean we should stop complaining. ;-p
Elon Musk donated them.
There are all sorts of theories of time travel. We won't know which one is actually true until we actually do the deed.
Insurrection and Nemesis were ruined by Stewart and Spiner. Fans had nothing to do with it.
That's certainly one position to take. Honestly, I expect them to make up shit after watching them do it for 50+ years with abandon, and am always pleasantly surprised when they actually come up with something that actually even referes to actual science and praise them when they do. But having suffered a childhood which comprised mostly of negative reinforcement, I tend to prefer the application positive reinforcement as an adult knowing the impact of the negative isn't swell and often doesn't produce the expected results.
Everyone I knew at the time described them as typical of regular if mediocre TNG two parters and no more. A lot of my friends, however, thought that First Contact took to many liberties and wanted a return to what they were more familiar with regarding TNG. I view my fellow Trek fan desires as a case of 'be careful what you wish for' examples.
I'm a lot more positive in real life than I seem on the Internet. This discussion has inspired me to watch TMP for some classic starship porn.
Don't know if you've gotten thoughts on this, but my take was pretty simple:
He's seen the Discovery crew rally around each other and become a family, particularly in these last two episodes, and it was the one last thing he needed to heal and allow him to accept where he wants to be.
Insurrection was a TNG episode (with a little more action). Nemesis was trying to one-up First Contact, with a bit of Wrath of Khan thrown in. Actually, every movie, sans 4 and 5, has tossed in a bit of Wrath of Khan.
IMO, its one thing to break up with some one you have mixed but powerful feelings about, its another thing to know that you CAN NEVER SEE THEM AGAIN even if you do change your mind. I think he was shocked into acting on that utter finality as well as perhaps humbled by the rest of the crew rallying around each other.
I'd also add that the purpose of the door wasn't that it would be able to necessarily stop a blast, but rather redirect it away from the more sensitive areas of the ship. The blast door "managed" the blast to minimize the damage to critical areas of the ship. And, we saw in the episode that the blast did take a chunk out of the ship but it was directed outwards and away from the bridge. I'd also assume that the physical door was assisted by a forcefield.
So, redirecting the blast rather than containing/stopping the blast. That's a lot more doable.
I do agree that was exactly what drove the movies into the ground. You can't throw out the same story over and over and over again without experiencing some diminished returns. Even so I would rank TWOK and First Contact as my top two films. Stewart took the Captain Ahab role to an even higher level than Montalban managed, which was no mean feat.
Plus when it comes to genetic diversity for reproduction to keep the human race going, the more the merrier
If he's Deltan he's going to be sex deprived for a looooong time due to all those wimpy humans
Well someone read Pike's report from the 23rd century - 'In future please have levers on both sides of the blast doors and call this the Cornwall levers'.
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