Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"

[Discofan]

Apparently drinking on duty means they take your phaser away, you'll have to do it.

The two of you should get a room.

 

[Kemaiku]

The two of you should get a room.

That might require a long conversation...

 

[Discofan]

It's amazing hum much progress has been made in the make-believe department. Remember how you could see Riker's beard intact through Deanna's very deep scratches... Seems terrible compared to what they do today.

 

[Kemaiku]

Maybe, but the "X impaled by Y" thing is getting old.

 

[Discofan]

Maybe, but the "X impaled by Y" thing is getting old.

Especially since nothing will ever top Picard's clone impalement in Nemesis (That they stole from "Excalibur" btw)

 

[Pauln6]

It's amazing hum much progress has been made in the make-believe department. Remember how you could see Riker's beard intact through Deanna's very deep scratches... Seems terrible compared to what they do today.

One of the lesser known species traits of Beatazoids .

 

[Alan Roi]

Which again is a subjective thing - valid but subjective. I'm sure you love some show/movie/book with dumb shit in it that you don't mind. Media is seldom perfect.

Because if you give them too much rope, you end up with Star Trek 2009 or Into Darkness. Trek has fantastical elements (such as how they can produce enough energy from anti-matter to warp space) but I love the Refit because there is a lot of engineering logic to how the ship is laid out (check out some awesome threads in the fan art section where actual engineers are modelling the ship). I'm a bit mystified by the Turbolift network but it must traverse the saucer to get to the engineering section.

From a safety perspective not having an emergency lever on the Turbolift side is even crazier. The shafts go all over the ship.

Please don't mention them enlarging the ship. It wasn't necessary and is an insult to logic.

And if they are afraid of doing anything to ruffle the fans you get Insurrection and Nemisis which are mediocre TNG 2 parters at best.

 

[Alan Roi]

The missile thing is a minor issue. Stupid, sure, but not ultimately a huge deal in itself. Still, it is a part of the pattern where the writers want to deliver a certain scene, and they're willing to throw all reason and logic aside and just have it to happen. There are way bigger issues repeating that same pattern though. I said this already earlier.

I am not being 'ornery'.

There was no logic or motivation thrown aside in this scene. Either Pike or Cornwell could have tried their best to make sure both of them came out of it alive. But from the conversation, Cornwell was basically telling PIke she was done. And that she was doing exactly the same thing that she always did. Get him to continue to be the inspiring captain she believed he was. If you follow their conversations over the course of the season, its pretty damn easy to see. In the end, he respected her for her decision not to seek extraordinary measures.

As for no one mentioning that the suit could do a series of microjumps before the big 950 year jump. That's just new information which Star Trek has always indulged in when they want to add a little suspense or take a left turn. And again, maybe some people don't like this, want all the information up front so they have all the answers ahead of time to make sure each episode is like an equation. I seem to recall Spock being schooled on the fact that life isn't a math equation, and that too, is Star Trek.

 

[thribs]

I just wish the writers would pay attention to what happened in the previous episodes. The seven signals were all in different places and they were all revealed at the same time at the start.

 

[oberth]

Especially since nothing will ever top Picard's clone impalement in Nemesis (That they stole from "Excalibur" btw)

steward was in excalibur - call it a hommage

 

[Alan Roi]

On a completely unrelated subject, I found the Mirror Universe's Method of execution (beamed into space) to be inconsistently merciful considering their obsession with inflicting a maximum of pain. I mean when you're exposed to the vacuum of space, you die in a matter of seconds, between 15 and 20, according to a documentary I saw that was about 2001 (you know the astronaut that had to spend several seconds in a vacuum because the computer had tricked him into going outside without his helmet).

Probably one of the reasons Emperor Georgiou was disliked by many. Too soft.

 

[SolarisOne]

That's actually a Romulan. Vulcans laugh only when they're sick.

Or they're V'tosh ka'tur.

 

[oberth]

Or they're V'tosh ka'tur.

they are locked up without any further ado

 

[Longinus]

I just wish the writers would pay attention to what happened in the previous episodes. The seven signals were all in different places and they all revealed at the same time at the start.

Look. They can't remember what they said in the previous part of the two-parter, expecting them to remember what happened in the first episode of the season is obviously too much. Also, if you're thinking these sort of things you clearly hate fun.

 

[ITDUDE]

I just wish the writers would pay attention to what happened in the previous episodes. The seven signals were all in different places and they all revealed at the same time at the start.

You're not supposed to remember that. Look away nothing to see there.

 

[thribs]

Look. They cant remember what they said in the previous part of the two-parter, expecting them to remember what happened in the first episode of the season is obviously too much. Also, if you're thinking these sort of things you obviously hate fun.

I like fun. I enjoy those Transformers movies and they are a load of nonsense. I just expect more from Star Trek.

 

[Alan Roi]

I just wish the writers would pay attention to what happened in the previous episodes. The seven signals were all in different places and they were all revealed at the same time at the start.

And they repeatedly said they didn't know where and when they occured. But that's time travel for you. Not an exact science when looked at from the position on non time travelers. IE people don't get accurate views of something when they aren't looking from every direction.

 

[Longinus]

I like fun. I enjoy those Transformers movies and they are a load of nonsense. I just expect more from Star Trek.

It was sarcasm. If you weren't a fun hater you would have realised that.

 

[Longinus]

And they repeatedly said they didn't know where and when they occured. But that's time travel for you. Not an exact science when looked at from the position on non time travelers. IE people don't get accurate views of something when they aren't looking from every direction.

THEY HAD A MAP!

 

[thribs]

And they repeatedly said they didn't know where and when they occured. But that's time travel for you. Not an exact science when looked at from the position on non time travelers. IE people don't get accurate views of something when they aren't looking from every direction.

But the map showed the signals in 7 different locations. Two weren’t in the same place.