I certainly preferred playing him as Spaft. Half-Spock, Half-Shaft, All Vulcan.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x08 - "If Memory Serves"
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I certainly preferred playing him as Spaft. Half-Spock, Half-Shaft, All Vulcan.
Sound Editor rocks on this one. I grinned like a loon when I heard the original transporter effect when "Spock" and "Burnham" beamed up from Talos!
I really like the character moments in this episode. This series’ strength is the drama and visuals more than the sci-fi and world building, and this episode did it really well.
Tyler especially was great in this ep for me. The character’s been kind of annoying of late but here he had some good scenes with both Culber and Pike.
(Was it just me or did it seem for a moment like the two might get it on in some future episode? I’m thinking Buffy/Spike hate-fraks, or Doug Stamper and the woman who’s husband’s death he’s responsible for...I forget her name, but that scene in his car when she tells him she knows who he is and what they’ve been doing...)
Pike too was humanized a bit with Vina. He’s kind of a perfect captain, and it was nice to see him need something.
The Burnham/Spock tension also felt, well, tense. It wasn’t too manufactured for the sake of filler.
(And, again, the ship cleaning itself! I love the little future-y moments in this series like that, like in Season 1 when we saw a uniform being replicated.)
Tyler especially was great in this ep for me. The character’s been kind of annoying of late but here he had some good scenes with both Culber and Pike.
(Was it just me or did it seem for a moment like the two might get it on in some future episode? I’m thinking Buffy/Spike hate-fraks, or Doug Stamper and the woman who’s husband’s death he’s responsible for...I forget her name, but that scene in his car when she tells him she knows who he is and what they’ve been doing...)
Pike too was humanized a bit with Vina. He’s kind of a perfect captain, and it was nice to see him need something.
The Burnham/Spock tension also felt, well, tense. It wasn’t too manufactured for the sake of filler.
(And, again, the ship cleaning itself! I love the little future-y moments in this series like that, like in Season 1 when we saw a uniform being replicated.)
Have they specifically said the actual cause of death for the three hospital people? Because, once they were unconscious, it wouldn't have been hard for Control to do it.
I was wondering about why they would frame him, and this works for me.
Makes sense to me.
One change the episode made that I actually thought was kind of funny, was the sudden addition of a previously nonexistant or at least never mentioned forest of Vulcan's Forge. For all of the decades the Trek productions filmed in California, Vulcan was a completely barren desert, and now they are filming in Canada and it suddenly has a forest.
Vulcan needs plants - no plants, no air. It's actually a good thing they've finally decided to show some foliage (and rain).
Wasn't there a bit of the 'Talosian illusion' transition sounds effect too, as a hint of what was going on?
I agree, great sound design for this one in particular. Discovery has been consistently good at working in various sound effects from across Trek history to make it feel right.
It was North Vulcan...I was wondering about why they would frame him, and this works for me.
Makes sense to me.
One change the episode made that I actually thought was kind of funny, was the sudden addition of a previously nonexistant or at least never mentioned forest of Vulcan's Forge. For all of the decades the Trek productions filmed in California, Vulcan was a completely barren desert, and now they are filming in Canada and it suddenly has a forest.
And not all of them are named Nolan.
In an area known geologically as the 'Vulcan Shield'.
Vulcan ought to have an ecosystem, true, but Michael was said to be in ShiKahr, and running away into the Vulcan Forge. Both shown and stated to be desert areas in previous series. We've seen the whole city of ShiKahr surrounded by desert.
They shouldn't have specified Michael being in a desert region if they weren't prepared to show it.
They shouldn't have specified Michael being in a desert region if they weren't prepared to show it.
Deserts can have trees.
Maybe it's one of those forests that pops up for a few weeks a year during the rain season and then vanishes again. We've got similar phenomena on Earth. It's not too big a leap to pretend this could happen on Vulcan and in a more extreme manner; extreme conditions would cause life to explode when it finally rains. This might be wanky, but for me, it's an explanation that works.
Yes. They call it "Vancouver"
No, they didn't need to do it, but it looked great and was a nice change of the status quo - imho.
yes, there are a few areas but not anywhere near Toronto. But as noted, where is Vulcan going to get its oxygen if there are no plants? If you want Star Trek to be even remotely realistic in any way at all, there being the odd forest on Vulcan cannot be impossible.
Yes. They call it "Vancouver"
Well, you go north of the 60 degrees won't see many trees. However, if you dare show there being snow on Vulcan (which there is up there most of the year) you'll have even more people up in arms.
True - he did play the Vulcan on the more annoyed (arrogant) side - but that to me seems typical Vulcan. Spock being half human was to me a little more accepting of human tendancies - which would not be the fact for pure Vulcans (thus I like Russ' take on pure Vulcan).
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