Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x07 - "Light and Shadows"
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Agreed
There is a danger though. In almost all instances it has worked against the shows that have done. Mystery creates the mystique and allure of the characters. So background or supporting characters fine, but when the deconstruct primary characters that is worrisome. They did it with Remington Steele. They did it with Han Solo. They did it with Sheldon on Big Bang Theory. It is not a recent fear or one limited to iconic sci-fi franchises.
I am open to compromise. Like you I would have no problem with them exploring supporting characters such as Amanda, I'll give them Sarek. I'd go so far as to say Yeoman Rand, Sulu, Chekov and Uhura, however, the biggies such as Kirk, Spock and McCoy they should allow to retain their enigmatic magic.
In any event, there is more than one way to view the universe and I respect the infinite differences in infinite combinations.
Its not about hating continuity its about rolling one eyes at the fans who will clutch the pearls with horror if a D7 looks like a D500 (or whatever it is). As you just said the Star Trek universe is HUGE so why not use it.
The smartest thing Sarek ever did was marry Amanda and create Spock with her, after that Dumb logic reigned supreme in his life.“No one is more motivated to save Spock than Section 31.”
That’s probably the dumbest thing Sarek has ever said.
I get that. I like the concept of continuity, but I can't say I get hung up or sweat the small stuff. Don't know I could spot the difference between a Klingon D7 and a D500. For me, canon is for general quality control and consistency.
However a good story is more important than continuity; TOS never mentions the Klingon war, DS9 Martok noted that not even they tried to invade Earth during all their fights with Starfleet. TOS Sarek in Journey to Babel, does not look like the 'fight for my son' type of father. He almost loses his son in 2257 and by 2268 he goes back to pretending he does not exist? (Ok Spock has a semi dysfunctional family). Discovery retcons all that.
Imagine a movie about military personnel in the Korean war and no one mentions WW2 which took place just ten years earlier...weird right?
“No one is more motivated to save Spock than Section 31.”
That’s probably the dumbest thing Sarek has ever said.
Not necessarily. I think it is a great illustration of where logic can fail. From Sarek's point of view Section 31 is serving a vital purpose. He simply does not have the context we do.
A good episode but a shame that everything is connected to Burnham, like the S31 Captain.
So for an Ambassador to put his trust in Section 31 is even more evidence that at this time in their history Section 31 is legitimate and known to all and sundry. (Still does not explain why the average Starfleet officer has not heard of it 100 years later, whether they went underground or not. Ok I know, the timeline is changed...right?).
Its the only way to find a canon reason to take em down!
"The Enterprise Incident"
So the numbers Spock was repeating have been in the opening credits since episode 1
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I know Saru didn't have a lot of screen time this (notably short) episode, but it seemed strange that there was no further exploration of the radical change he underwent last week. He just seemed like his old self. You'd think they could have tacked on a few more minutes to follow up on that, even if only with a brief conversation early in the episode.
That last week's events barely got lip service felt much like old Trek.
That last week's events barely got lip service felt much like old Trek.
Pro
Random stuff
- Pike and Ash dynamic
- Amanda and Sarek dynamic
- Tilly and Stamets dynamic (Tilly is way better when counterbalanced by Stamets)
- Serves purpose to set up the remainder of story well
- Folding in some more TOS stuff ...Talos IV! I will admit this bit of fan service did make me smile.
- Georgiou as evil Cat-Woman - the whole 'mysterious' exposition while walking along side Burnham without looking at her thing is starting to get old.
- The implication at the end of the episode is that Lelland (who seems to be the equivalent of a captain in S31) will let Georgiou run the show because he's afraid that Burnham will find out about his involvement in Burnham's parent's death. I hope there's more to that story coming up because at this juncture it sounds ridiculous.
Random stuff
- The Kaminar thing was sort of swept under the rug a bit since last episode...
- Did that temporal energy explosion happen over Kaminar?
It gets better! From the script of S2 Episode 10:
LELAND: Emperor Georgiou never told you what happened to your parents.
BURNHAM: She told me enough! She told me YOU killed them!
LELAND: No, Michael.... I am your parents!
It's almost like she's the star of the show or something!
Best scene ever.
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