Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x04 - "An Obol for Charon"

[Hythlodeus]

I mean, depending on one's interpretation of the song, either Stamets or Spock (or both) are Major Tom.

Tilly in that scene counts too, as a space traveller probably about to die

 

[Kemaiku]

The 20th and 21st centuries do not exist in Star Trek, just as we never reference anything from the 18th and 19th centuries ever.

But...but...I watch an 18th century cooking channel, I can't have hallucinated all that.

 

[Nyotarules]

What does 'futuristic' or 'alien' music even sound like?

The show makes an effort to imagine future technology, does it bother people that it makes the effort, we expect it too cos its set in the future after all.

 

[Hythlodeus]

But...but...I watch an 18th century cooking channel, I can't have hallucinated all that.

Impossible! There was no YouTube back then, they just started to use myspace

 

[zenophite]

Ah I see,Thanks everyone who replied to my question.

 

[eschaton]

What does 'futuristic' or 'alien' music even sound like? That's the problem Star Trek [Wars] has had. Any alien quality of said music would - any way you go about it - be ultimately be derivative of human understanding of music. There's current music that sounds a lot like Klingon opera, for example. The Kasseelian opera sounds like it could have been something dreamed up by Nobuo Uematsu. And any quality to it that was 'alien' was provided by Stamets's expo - not the music itself.

And 'futuristic' is something that's so utterly arbitrary it's beyond any conceivable abstract. To compose something to fit any applicable criterion of 'from the future' would be literally impossible.

Just get Animal Collective to write a couple songs. Half their discography sounds like pop music from several centuries in the future.

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[Hythlodeus]

The show makes an effort to imagine future technology, does it bother people that it makes the effort, we expect it too cos its set in the future after all.

tbf, it is way easier to imagine in which direction technology develops than to imagine in which way art develops

 

[Nyotarules]

The 20th and 21st centuries do not exist in Star Trek, just as we never reference anything from the 18th and 19th centuries ever.

Yeah all those 18th and 19th century musical rave parties were very popular in ...er yeah must have been it was popular with all the youths in the er... yeah right

 

[ALF]

Count me among the people who thought the references to both Prince and Bowie were too much. Regardless of the possibility that people will be listening to their music in 250 years, it jarred me out of the story, and that's bad.

That said, if you polled 100 people under the age of 50, I doubt more than a handful could name a single song written between 1900 and 1940. Time erases us more quickly than we'd like to think.

Maybe those Prince/Bowie songs have been given a new lease on life in the DISCO era as covers?

 

[Kemaiku]

Impossible! There was no YouTube back then, they just started to use myspace

Ye Olde Moving Picture Cookery Time

 

[Hythlodeus]

Maybe those Prince/Bowie songs have been given a new lease on life in the DISCO era as covers?

or they just never went out of fashion

 

[Kemaiku]

Youtube keeps giving me recommendations for classical and renaissance music as recently has *checks watch* 4 minutes ago.

 

[Amaris]

Yeah all those 18th and 19th century musical rave parties were very popular in ...er yeah must have been it was popular with all the youths in the er... yeah right

So what you have a problem with isn’t the music, but the behavior. Those crazy kids in the better human future.

 

[Lord Garth]

There was an exchange between @DaveyNY and I in the "Runaway" Discussion Thread that sums up the durability of pop music...

Link to the original thread.

In honor of the title "Runaway".

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Being of an older era, I would have gone with this one...

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I posted a song from the '80s. DaveyNY posted a song from the early-'60s that I never heard of.

 

[Kemaiku]

And even some of the bands I listen to sing in dead languages using ancient (now exceedingly rare or only used in these bands) instruments, the odd pirate band etc

There's a wealth of art and media that uses centuries old themes and ideas in them now. I can see revivalism taking off even more after WW3.

 

[rhllot]

More Denobulans, Efrosians, Tellarites, Andorians and by now the Xindi should be at peace with the Federations, more alien crew please!

Efrosian were not simply Klingon who became independent from the empire?

 

[rhllot]

“I had a cold last week. It SUCKED. ...Saurian: six nasal passages.” More Linus, please!

yeah!! so fun!!
I want to see Caitian I'm sure they'll look great!

 

[Kemaiku]

Klingon Lite (For when tomorrow is a good enough day to die, maybe).

 

[Rusty0918]

Efrosian were not simply Klingon who became independent from the empire?

Never gave that much thought. They COULD be an offshoot for all we know, like the Romulans were an offshoot of Vulcans.

 

[Tuskin38]

Efrosian were not simply Klingon who became independent from the empire?

There's no evidence of that.