Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x04 - "An Obol for Charon"

[Hythlodeus]

Yes, an example we should see more often, this alien reference, made up for the plot music did not cause any distraction to the story, did it stop the audience from identifying with the moment? I doubt it

Your mileage clearly varies. I found it annoying af

 

[matthunter]

Why can't 23rd century people be all about the polka?

Or the dulcet tones of the Hammond organ?

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[Nyotarules]

Your mileage clearly varies. I found it annoying af

Because they did not talk about Bowie instead?

 

[Hythlodeus]

Because they did not talk about Bowie instead?

because it didn't sound alien enough to be actually alien. And the audience couldn't relate to it

 

[Tuskin38]

I think you confused Andorian and Kasseelian.

We haven't heard Andorian opera.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I think you confused Andorian and Kasseelian.

We haven't heard Andorian opera.

Easy enough to do, Kasseelians are blue with only one antenna.

 

[Tuskin38]

Also hah, I didn't carch this Reference.
from M-A:

There was a Kasseelian opera house on a moon near Starbase 46. In December 2256, Stamets invited Culber to see a showing of La bohème there.
Anthony Rapp and Wilson Cruz, who play Stamets and Culber, appeared in the musical Rent, which is based on La bohème.

 

[Nyotarules]

Two 23rd century human males in love learned to like the same alien music, audience cannot relate to scene because
1. They thought the show was set in 2056 not 2256
or
2. They cannot relate to two men in love
or
3. They cannot understand the concept that alien music would exist in the Star Trek universe
or
4. A N other

 

[Greg Cox]

In "Real Life(VOY)" The Doctor's holographic son listened to Klingon music that wasn't opera. It sounded like a version of Klingon rock music. Now admittedly it was a fictional holodeck family but the EMH doubtless based his offspring's musical tastes off of known musical styles in Voyager's cultural database that were in existence at the time the ship was lost in the Delta Quadrant.

I loved the idea that rebellious Federation teens would embrace Klingon music to seem more bad-ass. That was a neat touch that felt very believable.

 

[Tuskin38]

Two 23rd century human males in love learned to like the same alien music, audience cannot relate to it because
1. They thought the show was set in 2056 not 2256
or
2. They cannot relate to two men in love
or
3. They cannot understand the concept that alien music would exist in the Star Trek universe
or
4. A N other

The Opera Music they played didn't sound alien at all. I linked it last page.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I loved the idea that rebellious Federation teens would embrace Klingon music to seem more bad-ass. That was a neat touch that felt very believable.

I always imagined that Doc's son was just into Klingon anything and what he was listening to was the equivalent of Klingon country music and didn't know the difference.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

He also has 3 lungs, 4 kidneys, an addition to his liver, is only using 20% of his brain and is *looks carefully* 25% full of shit (and an unidentified "organ 2A-5").

Hmmm.....Redundant organs? I wonder if tribbles squeal when he's near.

 

[Nyotarules]

I loved the idea that rebellious Federation teens would embrace Klingon music to seem more bad-ass. That was a neat touch that felt very believable.

The audience could not relate to that scene at all!
Nah real bad ass kids like the Beastie boys (hello young Kelvin James Kirk)

 

[Hythlodeus]

I think you confused Andorian and Kasseelian.

We haven't heard Andorian opera.

maybe. does it make a difference?

 

[Tuskin38]

The audience could not relate to that scene at all!

I related to it fine, because it wasn't the music, it was the entire composition of the scene.

 

[Nyotarules]

I related to it fine, because it wasn't the music, it was the entire composition of the scene.

I'm being sarcastic

 

[zenophite]

Pretty decent episode all around.

Was initially thinking 8 and settled on 9

Pro:

• It was nice to get back to a largely self contained primary story about space exploration/first contact.
• I liked the development for Saru (I got a bit of an ominous sense from his discussion of feeling 'power'; maybe it was just me)
• I liked the dynamic between Reno and Stamets - Reno's "yeah, whatever man" attitude is particularly amusing.
• Tilly was actually not annoying in this episode - i chalk it up to her taking a sort of back seat to the Reno and Stamets.
• Number one (more please)

Cons:

• Not really anything I can think of outside my usual gripe about SMG's Burnham character but the story and the work of everyone else in the cast really sort of diminished her penchant to take me out of the moment.

Random Stuff:

• I see that the favorite song thing seems to have really taken on a life of it's own here...I just don't get why it's such a big deal or soooo unrealistic that it could be that. For all we know in her time time there's been a revival of 70's era music or something...who cares?
• I would think it a bit of a stretch to think that the sum total knowledge of such a long lived being would be completely transferred into the ship's database without running out of storage space but who knows? I suppose it could be compressed or encoded in some super efficient way that lives up to the need to 'study it for centuries'

 

[Amaris]

I don't know and I don't care, it exists in the Star Trek universe

Good for you, that things are so easily satisfied by a simple reference rather than making the music connect with the audience on an emotional level, though I guess one could call it lazy writing since it's just a brief mention. I mean, talk is cheap. Cross the 't's and dot the 'i's and things are cool regardless of whether other people connect with them or not.

 

[Hythlodeus]

Two 23rd century human males in love learned to like the same alien music, audience cannot relate to scene because
1. They thought the show was set in 2056 not 2256

nope, I knew it was 2256

2. They cannot relate to two men in love

nope, been there myself numerous times. nice try, though

or
3. They cannot understand the concept that alien music would exist in the Star Trek universe

nope. I'm very fine with Klingon opera and want more diversity in the depiction of alien cultures myself. I agree that alien music would be an enrichment. Alien music that sounds not alien at all however, where's the point in that?

or
4. A N other

ooooor, maybe the reasons I gave were the reasons I had

 

[Nyotarules]

Good for you, that things are so easily satisfied by a simple reference rather than making the music connect with the audience on an emotional level, though I guess one could call it lazy writing since it's just a brief mention. I mean, talk is cheap.

Actually it costs 100 credits