Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x04 - "An Obol for Charon"

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  1. BeatleJWOL

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  2. cultcross

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    So... It's proper old school?
     
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  3. Kor

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    It just seems that somewhere along the line, some doctor, biologist, or somebody would have noted, "Hey Saru, these things in the back of your head don't have the same DNA as the rest of your body." Unless these parasites/symbiotes/whatever use horizontal gene transfer (like the tardigrade, but more so) to make themselves seem like they are fully part of the Kelpian's biology.

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  4. XCV330

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    Having different DNA in one part of the body wouldn't necessarily mean all that much. Human genetic chimeras have been found (case of one woman with two distinct genetic lines in her blood cells, etc) and because no one had been looking until now, it's still not known how rare that might be.
     
  5. eschaton

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    Yeah. I mean, in most cases I have to guess that someone would take a relatively non-invasive sample from one place - like saliva or a blood draw - and use that for DNA analysis. You wouldn't think to analyze the DNA separately in different portions of a person's body unless they showed signs of cancer or something.
     
  6. Kor

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    Interesting... I remember reading something about that. By the 23rd century (as depicted in Trek) they would surely have a much better understanding of such phenomena.

    I'm just thinking that with all that futuristic tech, routine exams would be way, way more thorough than what we're accustomed to today, with our primitive early 21st century medicine. Will all the bizarre stuff that they routinely encounter out there in the unknown, they would probably be looking for irregularities down to the quantum level, just to ensure the safety of everybody in the crew.

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  7. oberth

    oberth Commander Red Shirt

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    exactly - didn't one (lt) cmdr scott talk about bio filters (for the transporter) in tos?
     
  8. XCV330

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    They had to install special ones for the amount of std's Kirk picked up over the years.
     
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  9. Jackson_Roykirk

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    Ye Olde-y School?
     
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  10. Jackson_Roykirk

    Jackson_Roykirk Commodore Commodore

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    I have more of a "problem" with the idea that Kelpiens haven't accidentally figured out this big lie before.

    I put "problem" in quotes because I let far bigger issues slide, and I'll let that one slide as well. If I tried hard enough, I can find some sort-of-plausible reasons for Kelpiens not figuring this out already.

    After all:
    "It's just a show, and I should really just relax."
     
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  11. Kor

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    "Schoole," methinks.

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  13. Cutie McWhiskers

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    Obol = a type of currency during Greek times, a measure of weight during Greek and Roman times, or a type of cereal that never gets soggy...

    Charon = Originally was a name for the planet of the inhabitants of "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield". But way before that, was a term used to describe a deity that carried souls across the river Styx, what fun...

    Like Pike's development, Number One's isn't all that great so far. At least what we know of Pike from "The Cage" is not as malleable as what little was accorded Number One, but she seemed pretty professional and austere as well in the 1964 pilot. But, as prequels go, STD still isn't worse than how a certain galaxy far far away's was. IMHO, YMMV.

    If nothing else, the show at least expands our knowledge of Greek and Roman cultures thanks to lengthy titles. And in arguably productive way than "Can I haz cheezbooger?" ever will. Even more, when you consider the nature of the Greeks and Romans. Which is rather more interesting than what people give it credit for...
     
  14. DaveyNY

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    That planet in TOS was CHERON.

    How many folks know that CHARON is another name for PLUTO?
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    Charon i think was the ferryman not the actual death deity. I could be wrong though. Maybe there were different versions of the belief.
     
  16. Tuskin38

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    Charon was also the name of the Emperor's ship.
     
  17. oberth

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    you're not - btw, ancient greek was my first foreign language :wah:
     
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    hopefully...none. As Charon is Pluto's moon
     
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  20. CorporalClegg

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    Is the natural satellite of a not-a-planet-anymore still a moon?