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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

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I always thought it was pretty obvious that it was always the same MU.
Funnily enough I thought the opposite ;) the only way for the episodes so far to make any logical sense is if they're in different universes, or you accept Lorca's view that certain people are fated to be together or certain ships are fated to be built. The history of the MU if taken as one continuous timeline makes no sense at all, especially the DS9 episodes.
 
To be fair, he is chief of security.
There should still be someone in there guarding the Klingon prisoner. Leaving people alone in cells restrained is a great way to get a death in custody, plus the opportunity afforded her to converse with anyone she wants and potentially escape.
 
I love that people are actually complaining about the continuity of the mirror universe.

The only way to make any of the MU episodes work in any way logically is to assume we travel to a slightly different quantum reality each time. Infinite possibilities - there will be lots of Terran Empires, and lots of them got a Defiant from a universe similar to ours. Otherwise, we just accept the MU is fun, not sensible, and roll with it. As Lorca and Burnham hang a lantern on, the fact that in this totally different universe all the same people end up on nearly identical ships is itself ludicrous. Any other issues pale in comparison.
Seriously? Continuity and Discovery are laughable concepts. This show is about cheap gratification and cartoon cheap thrills. Once you dumb down to that you can let go and accept it.
 
It's just so scrappy :( All the problems of the last 'universe' are replaced by this messy shit? Tyler and his scene with L'Rell was weak and contrived. Yuck. Culbert, the poor bastard :( Where the hell is the main Doctor? Could Saru be any more 'emasculated'? What was Tilly doing on the bridge in the first place before we knew she was like some mirror universe Captain? In 'our' universe she's just a blah and yet there she is nicely positioned. How come Lorca has all these deep and meaningfuls with Michael and not Saru? Does anyone care that Tyler is an unknown quantity falling apart? Why do they only use Stamets as the spore drive pilot and not shoot up some other patsy??
 
Tyler has the best facial hair of any Klingon since General Krell on ENT. Which is commendable because Ash didn't even have facial hair until he was surgically altered to look human. Face it, Jean-Luc Picard has more hair on his skull than every Klingon in DSC combined.
 
Tyler and his scene with L'Rell was weak and contrived.

That's your opinion, I thought it was one of the best played scenes in the episode. The amount of emotion from both actors and especially Mary Chieffo.........to see her going from excitement to horror as she realized something was going wrong with her master plan to restore Voq was pretty amazing. Even more so when you think about her doing it through all the prosthetics.
 
Fantastic episode. Hell of a welcome back.

Regarding Lorca...

We can now assume he is from the MU, yes? Absolutely all signs point to it:

- MU Lorca has history with Burnham, having killed her in the MU. Our Lorca conventiently has a plan to presumably get access to the most powerful ship in the MU, that involves our Burnham, a person who our Lorca brought onto his crew against Starfleet's wishes and, I believe, had her prison ship detoured to him in the first place?

- All the dangerous weapons he was keeping in that room of his.

- Sleeping with female crew members (Landry), etc. Something very MU about that!

- He told Mudd that he watched his old ship blow up, all hands lost, claiming he did it himself. MU Lorca's ship was destroyed, MU Lorca being known to have escaped prior.

- The Admiral made note that the sex she had with him wasn't what it used to be, putting it down to PTSD, but never obviously assuming it could because she was sleeping with a wholly different man.

- Sleeping with a phaser under his pillow was played as a PTSD symptom, but one would assume ALL MU captains would keep phasers under their pillow out of habit.

- There was obviously the screengrab taken from Episode 9 which showed a Captain's Override in the destination coordinates just prior to Stamet's accidentally taking them to the MU.

- When speaking to the crew in this episode about his work on discovering the spore drive could possibly take them to alternate universes, he specifically said that Stamets had said he wanted to explore those ideas following the end of the war, something we know Stamets said the exact opposite of.

- Takes Culber off of treating Stamets, now he's in the MU. Culber himself says he is the best person to be treating Stamets, but Lorca takes him off his care anyway, presumablynhoping Stamet's doesn't recover now.

I mean, at this point, it's almost obvious, isn't it?
 
This episode was a very easy watch! A lot of fun.

Looking so forward to seeing Michelle Yeoh again.
Tilly nailed her second crack at Captain Killy. Of course eventually the plan will go to shit. They are all gonna end up doing time in the booth.
Never thought we'd see the storyline from ENT In a Mirror, Darkly continue... incredible.
 
Yes the actor may be coming back, but, will the character we know return or will we run into the evil version which changes direction.

No, they said in the article that they're not doing a mirror version of him, or at least not an evil version.
 
From the next time on..

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That Andorian appears to be "Normal". No obvious changes, but they are far away, so they might not be noticeable.
 
Didn't Sisko successfully do that though?

You may wish to re-watch. Sisko was a believeable as a member of the Terran resistance not the Terran empire. The empire at that stage was run by the Klingons, Cardassians and others, with worf being emporer.
 
So I wonder if Captain Tilly will have a Captain's man much like the Captain's woman established on TOS. Maybe mirror universe Stamets. Makes sense to me. If you got a a empire were bigotry and hatred is the way of life, then homophobia most likely would also be a issue in that empire so it would offer some interesting social commentary. A gay man who has to stay in the closet because of the society he was born into. Besides I would like to see mirror universe Stamets because I want to see all the character doubles. That is one of the key charms of doing alternate universe stories. Plus it's better than just having the actor sit out 3 episodes in sickbay wearing contact lenses.


Jason
 
You may wish to re-watch. Sisko was a believeable as a member of the Terran resistance not the Terran empire. The empire at that stage was run by the Klingons, Cardassians and others, with worf being emporer.

Actually I don't think Worf was Emporer. I think he was called a regent. PLus I didn't feel like he had that much power because even he feared failure if they didn't retake Terok Nor. I always liked the idea that Dukat had the ultimate power in the Alliance.

Jason
 
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