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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

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So Tyler/Voq may not be going away given that his sleeper conditioning is unstable. It could possibly be neutralized, or at least made dormant for some interesting "Tyler loses his shit" type episodes.

Given the agonizing gorefest we're being told/shown happened to turn him 'human,' far more likely it's the core original Voq personality that's unstable; the Tyler conditioning might be the only thing keeping him even remotely sane/functional at this point. Remove that and... :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
I am seriously loving the MU uniforms
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I was thinking that cosplayers are going to be all over those outfits. The only question: How many Captain Killys are there going to be at Comic-Con this year? :)
 
Wow! So things are escalating much faster in the Ash/Voq story than I thought they would! Others have theorized that both Ash and Voq's personality are present in Ash, and it looks like that's right. How did they miss that, though, when they examined Ash?

I was kind of wondering if Culber was really dead, but this theory came to my mind as well:

Perhaps Culber is brought back once/if Stamets develops powers to go along with his Gary Mitchell eyes.

Stamets sure does have those Gary Mitchell eyes! Also, aside--how sweet is it that he came out his haze for just a second when Culber kissed him? Loved that. Culber had better not be gone for good!

The idea that Lorca is from the Mirror Universe is intriguing! It certainly seems possible giving that his MU counterpart is MIA. But then where would the regular universe Lorca be? Hmmm...!

I freakin' loved Captain Tilly/Killy. She's awesome. In either universe.

My only issue with the episode was how much of it was expo dump/reading of records rather than the characters discovering it for themselves. Maybe they felt like we'd already seen that enough in other Star Trek shows? But it still took a little dramatic oomph away from the first half of the episode.

8/10
 
In universe - there exists the ability to medically transform a Klingon to a human, yet they seem to have lost the formula to compound w wart remover.

Out of universe - they keep on covering whatever it is with a crap-ton of makeup - so much so that every scene she's in its like a billboard saying "yep, still here"


Tilly has multiple warts/moles. And she's a tad overweight. But that's the character's 'charm'. The producers are going out of their way to redefine female beauty standards and push their message. So they wouldn't cover it up.

Notice there's no Marina Sirtis, Terry Farrell, Jeri Ryan or Jolene Blalock on this series. The actress who plays Airiam on STD is conventionally attractive http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4476951/ , but they've made her look like a mutant.

Personally I find Tilly to be the Jar Jar Binks of this series, but that has nothing to do with her look.
 
The idea that Lorca is from the Mirror Universe is intriguing! It certainly seems possible giving that his MU counterpart is MIA. But then where would the regular universe Lorca be? Hmmm...!

I was going to say he's clearly dead, since we know the Buran is destroyed in the prime universe. But do we really know that? If ISS Discovery went into the prime timeline just as USS Discovery went into the Mirror Universe, the same could have happened to the USS Buran.
 
(And no, IMO - there is NO WAY you could have done this type of story using the 24th/25th century Star Trek setting - and there's no way 24th century characters (with all their PC and pacifist/evolved sensibilities could have pulled off truly masquerading as 'Terran Empire' denizens.)
Didn't Sisko successfully do that though?
 
My only issue with the episode was how much of it was expo dump/reading of records rather than the characters discovering it for themselves. Maybe they felt like we'd already seen that enough in other Star Trek shows? But it still took a little dramatic oomph away from the first half of the episode.

8/10
I think they needed the info dump or there'd be no way they could 'realistically' survive. They're literally flying blind. In the original, Kirk and co.were face to face with the other crew and could learn quickly by observation. They mostly repeated that formula in the subsequent mirror eps except for ENT in which the story was told from the Mirror perspective.
 
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Gotta go to the "Will it make Season 3" because it already got a second season, and obviously, now, if it somehow doesn't get a Season 3; you were 'right' about it all along, eh? Sheesh :rommie:


Season 2 was always going to happen, even before S1 premiered.

I live where the show is filmed and talked to many production people on the series. Netflix paid for all of S1 apparently. S2 was guaranteed.

Anything beyond that is where the show needs the general audience to support it.
 
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