Though the Defiant went from the regular universe to the MU, it also traveled backwards in time. I wonder if the Discovery followed their footsteps, if it would then end up going forward in time...
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"
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Though the Defiant went from the regular universe to the MU, it also traveled backwards in time. I wonder if the Discovery followed their footsteps, if it would then end up going forward in time...
Oh damn
If an interspatial rift becomes involved then I suppose it's possible, though given the timeframe of the series I imagine any trip into the past or the future would be temporary and the Discovery would end up back home in 2257 where she left.
Did anyone else pick up on how many clues they gave that Lorca is from the mirror universe in this episode?
cartoony for STD perhaps, the TOS and TNG, ENT MU were much more cartoon like.
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As I watching the episode I had the same thought. At the very least, it's a great misdirection from the writers. But I suspect much more is going on.
Oooo look at you. 7s and 8s. Yup, that makes all the difference. Definitely not preaching to the choir then.
Enjoy the insular echo chamber.
Too late. She killed and ate those horses.
So I'm a teeny bit concerned about the Mirror Discovery having almost certainly been transposed with Discovery-Prime. Given how successful Mirror-Kirk and company were at being incognito when the same thing happened (dammit, will happen) to them, there's probably some trouble brewing back in the ol' normal universe.
Production-design wise, the new Terran Empire logos are clever but, you know, too clever. The sword replaced with an upside-down delta. The mirrored Earth is a step too far. Is mirror-Earth actually backwards from our Earth in terms of the continents? That's wacky.
Also, I'm pretty sure this the first time a character on-screen has actually said the word "mirror" in reference to anything from the mirror universe.
The way he keeps spacing out, combined with the Manchurian Candidate shout-out, makes me think that Tyler qua Tyler probably doesn't even remember killing Culber. Fat lot of difference that makes.
Anyway, now we know how things are going to end for him; Burnham makes a set of Klingon Icons, all of which are Kahless, and tries to override his Klingon programming with new instructions that way.
We saw Shenzhou and Discovery side-by-side in this episode, and they were nearly as different from each other as a faithful TOS ship would be from either of them in terms of coloration and hull styling, and it didn't seem that odd. Never mind all the mismatched Starfleet ships we saw in the TNG-era. Excelsiors, Mirandas, Galaxies, and Akiras hardly seem to go together until you see them next to each other every week.
Nope, but in the preview, we saw an Andorian from behind in the group shot of people walking towards a building outdoors (white hair and an antenna peaking up), so it seems pretty certain we'll probably see one's face before too long.
Production-design wise, the new Terran Empire logos are clever but, you know, too clever. The sword replaced with an upside-down delta. The mirrored Earth is a step too far. Is mirror-Earth actually backwards from our Earth in terms of the continents? That's wacky.
Also, I'm pretty sure this the first time a character on-screen has actually said the word "mirror" in reference to anything from the mirror universe.
The way he keeps spacing out, combined with the Manchurian Candidate shout-out, makes me think that Tyler qua Tyler probably doesn't even remember killing Culber. Fat lot of difference that makes.
Anyway, now we know how things are going to end for him; Burnham makes a set of Klingon Icons, all of which are Kahless, and tries to override his Klingon programming with new instructions that way.
We saw Shenzhou and Discovery side-by-side in this episode, and they were nearly as different from each other as a faithful TOS ship would be from either of them in terms of coloration and hull styling, and it didn't seem that odd. Never mind all the mismatched Starfleet ships we saw in the TNG-era. Excelsiors, Mirandas, Galaxies, and Akiras hardly seem to go together until you see them next to each other every week.
Nope, but in the preview, we saw an Andorian from behind in the group shot of people walking towards a building outdoors (white hair and an antenna peaking up), so it seems pretty certain we'll probably see one's face before too long.
I forgot. Was Hoshi known as "Emperor Hoshi" or "Empress Hoshi"? I thought it was the latter?
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Possibly. Ash has actually grown on me. I'd like to see him either win out over his old Voq personality, or that, as Voq, he rejects what he once believed and embraces his new life.
Pretty sure I remember it as "Empress."
Empress Hoshi Sato.
Wow. That was quite a ride. I saw the MU coming and Tyler/Voq was pretty solid guess. They really pulled out all the stops and saw none of the rest coming. Worth the wait!
That's not the Connie, merely a placeholder. And a tarted up one at that. All it was missing were the tassels.
But he's Vulcan...
Defiant timeline:
2155 or so - Prime Universe Defiant 'found' by MU Jonathan Archer - ship was towed to the gravity well of a dead star as I recall
slightly later in 2155 - Hoshi Sato knifes Archer and takes the Defiant as her own, declares herself empress
later (not sure when) - bookverse - Sato is successful in what I suspect is a coup of sorts - haven't read the books yet, sorry Mr. Bennett!
2250 or so? Discovery switcheroo between universes
2267 or so? Enterprise switcheroo between universes
also 2267 or so - Tholian web as Defiant fades in and out, eventually disappearing
So! Defiant is still active on Prime Universe side during DISCO.
QED
2155 or so - Prime Universe Defiant 'found' by MU Jonathan Archer - ship was towed to the gravity well of a dead star as I recall
slightly later in 2155 - Hoshi Sato knifes Archer and takes the Defiant as her own, declares herself empress
later (not sure when) - bookverse - Sato is successful in what I suspect is a coup of sorts - haven't read the books yet, sorry Mr. Bennett!
2250 or so? Discovery switcheroo between universes
2267 or so? Enterprise switcheroo between universes
also 2267 or so - Tholian web as Defiant fades in and out, eventually disappearing
So! Defiant is still active on Prime Universe side during DISCO.
QED
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