Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x09 - "Into the Forest I Go"
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I wanted the cast of Friends to beat one another to death with lead pipes in the series finale but is that how that train wreck of unfunniness ended?
No.
No.
The Seinfeld finale with them all winding up in jail was pretty satisfying.
I cannot remember what...
Nope.
No lead pipes.
Nope.
No lead pipes.
Thanks a lot, State Senator Obama.
You do realize that there are 6 more episodes in the season, followed by a second season, right? Unless you're demanding that resolution of the Lorca/Cornwell situation take place within 2 episodes or so, which would be ridiculous (wouldn't it?), then there is time for it to resolve itself.
This all sounds like stuff you made up in your mind as "stuff that I think should have happened", I have some of these myself. However, the staff is not writing the show according to all of our specifications. And since they are not, you're certainly entitled to come here and call the deviations from your narrative "plot holes" if you want. But you should be prepared for the fact that not everyone is going to agree.
The writing staff has plenty of time to deal with any of the aforementioned if they think any of it is important enough to the story they are telling. .
You know I'm still waiting to hear the full story about the Buran. For a couple of weeks people were debating theories about what could have happened with Lorca. Before we pass any judgement's let's wait and see if he was shunted into a shuttle against his will and that is why he survived. We don't know the full story. Still waiting. We wouldn't be making up stuff if they simply, oh I don't know, supplied a complete plot here and there.
They're not going to resolve everything in a hour. Lorca's past and future are a developing story.
It's okay we're somewhere else now. New pastures for more loose ends.
There's a storytelling device called a "flashback". No matter where the show is, it can visit the past any time it likes.
Don't count on it. Tyler's one is up for debate already. Was it real? Was it even Tyler? Is it Voq? Was it Discovery being sensitive about male abuse? That little storytelling device the 'flashback' .. can't always be relied on.
That wasn't quite a flashback in the storytelling sense. . A flashback would actually take up a significant portion of the episode and not just be random flashes of memory.
It was hard to tell if Lorca intentionally caused the accident. He clearly was unhappy about being recalled back, and he clearly was unhappy about Stamets saying he would retire. But, is he a sociopath enough to put lives in danger to preserve his own power? It didn't seem like he had finished transmitting that information to the Federation before the accident, so if it was intentional he was endangering the war effort.
The way it was framed, before the jump it seemed like he was doing something wrong, but after he seemed just as shocked as everyone else.
I guess we'll find out next half of the season. Anyway the midseason finale left me with a higher estimation of Discovery than I've had at any point in the series so far.
The way it was framed, before the jump it seemed like he was doing something wrong, but after he seemed just as shocked as everyone else.
I guess we'll find out next half of the season. Anyway the midseason finale left me with a higher estimation of Discovery than I've had at any point in the series so far.
I would bet you a quatloo that if they DID dedicate an episode to Lorca's backstory, explaining the Buran you'd then complain that they spend too much time on backstory and not enough time moving the plot forward.
Can you just write a python script to generate your replies?
It was a flashback. Though it's accuracy depends on so much else.
I'm talking about a full flashback, the type they use in Lost,Arrow and other shows. Not flashes of memory brought on by some sort of trigger. An actual storyline that takes place in a character's past.
It was a storyline in Tyler's past. Supposedly... if he is Tyler. Being imprisoned, tortured and abused is how we met him. It has shaped his PTDS and meant a lot to him when he was opening up to Michael. It is the basis to how he is going to relate to L'Rell.
Alright, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
Jesus, early TNG could be friggin' brutal.
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More of an acid flashback. Distorted, confusing visuals. Was it torture, was it massive reconstruction?
It's hard to imagine they could do that much plastic surgery and have him looking OK by the time Lorca found him, unless the Klingons stole some Fed medical equipment form the dead fleet.
I would bet you a quatloo that if they DID dedicate an episode to Lorca's backstory, explaining the Buran you'd then complain that they spend too much time on backstory and not enough time moving the plot forward.
Can you just write a python script to generate your replies?
Unfortunately, if you don't like something...you're not going to like it no matter what happens. You're going to find every reason in the world to rationalize your opinion...ESPECIALLY if your opinion is a minority opinion and you find yourself seeking affirmation and recognition ("THE WRITERS WILL READ MY COMMENTS AND CHANGE THINGS FOR MEEEEEEE!!!!").
Different, conflict-based arc built on a slow-burn of character self-discovery?? NOPE! Too different! Too grim dark! Gene's Vision! NotMyStarTrek!
Show with the same, episodic, rose-colored hope for humanity with morally superior and infallible characters?? NOPE! Stale...repetitive and derivative! Can't they go in a new direction?? BermanTrek rip off!! NotMyStarTrek!
Yes, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but it's why some of these habitually / relentlessly "negative on DSC" posters are better just ignored. The fans of the show can debate if Tyler is Voq, if Lorca is a Section 31 Mirrorverse sociopathic Klingon agent, if the Spore Drive is teh sux, and who their favorite character is...and that's great discussion regardless of what side you come down on. It's productive, meaningful, and in the spirit of enjoying the entertainment as presented to us.
Every one is entitled to an option, but I'm not sure what the motivation of some of these people is though, given that they continuously post the same exact negative opinions over and over again just expressing dislike about every aspect of the show. What does this actually accomplish? I'm not even sure how to interact with such a poster at this point. Again, I do think it comes down to their (somewhat misguided) belief that "my opinion on TrekBBS will be seen by the showrunners and they will change the show more to my liking." Unfortunately, since the vast majority of the posts are constructive/positive and engaged in debating the specifics of the arc, characters and plot of the show...if there were actually producers here reading, they are far more likely to read those kinds of posts, and filter out the relentlessly and incessantly dismissive "why isn't this show more like MY STAR TREK" kinds of stuff.
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