Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x03 - "Context is for Kings"

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I doubt Lorca was responsible for the original accident. He said he would use anything and anyone to accomplish his mission. If Straal's research could do it, Lorca would want it to go on. And there's a reason Stamets and Straal were split up in the first place...

 

[BillJ]

That was one other thing I meant to bring up: the destruction of the Glenn looked really cheap, like it was a rush job.

 

[BillJ]

I doubt Lorca was responsible for the original accident. He said he would use anything and anyone to accomplish his mission.

Once they started making consistent light year jumps, the control of the project would probably be pulled from Lorca. An "accident" on their sister ship keeps that from happening and keeps the project firmly under Lorca's control.

 

[Tom]

I wonder if the prisoners that warped away in the shuttle will be killed? I say this for 2 reasons, they have seen too much and are a security risk to Lorca. Also Suru's tendrils? came down on the back of head while looking at the shuttle warping away. I'm not sure if that is a sign that he is sensing someone will die. It's an odd scene.

 

[cultcross]

That was one other thing I meant to bring up: the destruction of the Glenn looked really cheap, like it was a rush job.

I often wonder if you get a different version of these episodes than I do

 

[Kemaiku]

They'll suffer an "accident" not long after they get to the mine. The Federation seems to think that Andorians doing their dirty work in getting rid of the worst criminals absolves them.

 

[cultcross]

Once they started making consistent light year jumps, the control of the project would probably be pulled from Lorca. An "accident" on their sister ship keeps that from happening and keeps the project firmly under Lorca's control.

Interesting - quite possibly correct. If anything, he could have manipulated the Captain into trying something unsafe.

 

[Kemaiku]

Wasn't it just the "mistake" Burnham found in the code?

The genome and drive need to be in perfect sync (the fuck that nonsense even means, dancing spores? spores are organic, warp reactions are 120 million + Kelvin, anything about 6000 is just plasma but fuck it) to work. When Discovery went all Black Alert and the jump only went a few hundred klicks, the ship bled water through solid matter. If the Glenn went 90 lightyears or 100+, the degree of matter de-sync would have been equivalent.

They're lucky the ship didn't arrive entirely out of order with the nacelles through the bow of the ship.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

They'll suffer an "accident" not long after they get to the mine. The Federation seems to think that Andorians doing their dirty work in getting rid of the worst criminals absolves them.

I really wonder what's up with the Andorians. The Klingons hate them and apparently they aren't the most popular people in the Federation, too...

 

[Kemaiku]

Maybe that's why. The Andorians have been the thugs of the Federation since 2161.

Taking the Alpha Quadrants lunch money for 90 years.

 

[OpenMaw]

I wonder if the prisoners that warped away in the shuttle will be killed? I say this for 2 reasons, they have seen too much and are a security risk to Lorca. Also Suru's tendrils? came down on the back of head while looking at the shuttle warping away. I'm not sure if that is a sign that he is sensing someone will die. It's an odd scene.

Yeah, I got the impression Saru was sensing their pending assassination.

As to whether Lorca is uberbad. I don't think so. I get the impression of a much more grey personality. I don't think he'd scuttle an entire asset like that. That's not how he comes off to me. There's some nobility behind him. Maybe not a lot, but some.

 

[matthunter]

I still haven't bothered to sit and watch them a second time, I doubt I ever will, plus I used the fast forward button a lot, especially on the Klingon parts, it was pretty obvious it was all a Klingon setup and there was no need to add so much monologue.

They've made a point of using the Klingon characters on the series posters, so I think there was a point to it - Voq in particular was set up as similar to Burnham in many ways - scorned and mocked as a youth for being different, wanting to be part of something bigger and losing a mentor. I'm guessing that could be common ground for him and Michael to resolve the war in the future, although her killing of T'kuvma will complicate that. Still, he may recognize her need to do so under "Klingon honor" as T'kuvma had slain her captain.

Voq also has no House, so he may be less wedded to Klingon feudal tit-for-tat vengeance.

 

[Ometiklan]

The shields were raised.

Except for all the times they beamed through shields, you can't beam through shields.

Maybe he space walked?

Not enough damn time.

You're perhaps not allergic to anything. Lucky.

"Figuratively" poison...

If you recall any line about the Klingon shields being up or down, you are a better man than I. I have watched the episodes 3 times and don't remember one.

As for allergies, yes I have several/many, but none are that bad even if they trigger asthma, so I guess i viewed your comment as overly critical/nitpicky. I will accept your "figuratively" adjustment.

 

[137th Gebirg]

They've made a point of using the Klingon characters on the series posters, so I think there was a point to it...

That's something else that struck me but got buried in my subconscious until now. These new Klingon glyphs at the very beginning of the pilot in the first few seconds... I don't think they're anything like what has appeared before in any other Trek incarnation.

The Klingons seem to have several written dialects, all look similar (very pointy and curvy) but contain different shapes.
There's this one, which started appearing in early 80's fan-made books, based on TOS' notion of Klingonese, or the enhanced Klingonaase from FASA and John Ford's "Final Reflection":

Then there's this one, which we see used in TNG and other shows, that appears to be the written analog to Mark Okrand's tlhIngan Hol version of the language:

This new one is completely different-looking in every conceivable way. Unfortunately, I can't find any screen caps to show it right now. I need to go back and see if I can find something on this, maybe make my own capture.

 

[Unimatrix Q]

Maybe it's Old Klingon.

 

[Worf2DS9]

Okay, I'm all caught up on Space now, and I really enjoyed this episode, much better than the first two "prologue" episodes. Loved the tonal shift in the Burnham/Saru relationship, Tilly is adorably annoying (and just where does all that hair go when she's on duty??), and I loved the scary mission to the Glenn. I wish the interior of the ships on this show were a little brighter though. At least on Discovery, it can be explained away by Lorca's eye sensitivity issue. And a minimal Klingon presence is a plus.

 

[Gonzo]

Pretty clear how they will beat the Klingons

Does 2 torpedoes constitute a volley?

I know "FULL SPREAD" either means 1 or 3...

Must admit I prefer the term "Fire Everything".

 

[137th Gebirg]

Maybe it's Old Klingon.

Could be... their equivalent to Sanskrit or something, sure.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Pretty clear how they will beat the Klingons

Must admit I prefer the term "Fire Everything".

"Alpha Strike" is a Starfleet Battles favorite.

 

[Gonzo]

Its clear to me what the secret weapon will be in the end after seeing Lorca with one.

Plague of Tribbles.