Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x01 - "The Vulcan Hello"

[cooleddie74]

You can't take the science in this show seriously. Janeway turned into a salamander and back in one episode.

Also, the Augment virus. Who knows what crazy remedies and cures the Empire has tried over the past 100 years to reverse the effects. And even if the Augment virus isn't connected to these particular Klingons in any direct way they could be a subgroup of Klingons that just happens to look different. They ARE a vast interstellar empire, after all. Not every Klingon will look like the other nor even similar in some cases.

 

[USS Triumphant]

"The Vulcan Hello Kitty"

 

[Matthew Raymond]

You can't take the science in this show seriously. Janeway turned into a salamander and back in one episode.

Yeah, but later they basically pretended the episode never happened. It's the Highlander 2: The Quickening of Star Trek episodes.

"The Vulcan Hello Kitty"

Almost perfect. He just need to be punching a Klingon in the face.

 

[Neopeius]

Well, hell Picard basically ran a carpeted Hotel (with families aboard - so yeah, I get your point.

I didn't like that aspect, either. I called the TNG Enterprise a Cruise Ship. I came to appreciate quite a bit about TNG, but I never felt it was as good a show as TOS.

My summation was: "TOS was a great show with lousy episodes. TNG was a lousy show with great episodes."

 

[kerchan]

Burnham attacked the Klingon who was attached to the hull using gravity boots
and manages to kill him with a single blow!

I don't think it has been analyzed in detail.

In free fall when you push something you get pushed back.Newton's Law.

The Klingon was attached by gravity boots and if you tried to stab him you would get pushed buck and also push the Klingon back as the center of gravity is very low due to the gravity boots sticking him to the hull.

Burnham is much lighter then the 200kg bulky Klingon and at the moment of impact would bounce back or the Klingon would come loose from the hull or simply bend/sway backwards or come loose from the ship.

What the Klingon was doing on the hull is not explained.Also how he managed to get into a spacesuit so quickly is not explained.

Also he was wearing a spacesuit which would offer further resistance to being stabbed.
It is very difficult to exert a force in space without an anchor point.

Also the Klingons wear armor and metal bits.

So the idea of killing a Klingon accidentally with a single blow is pure hogwash and is an example of the lack of
basic science education by the writers.

In my opinion they should fire the writers and hire the writers of CSI or NCIS,etc,etc.

 

[cultcross]

Burnham was propelled by a rocket pack when she hit the Klingon, so you need to take the thrust into account. Plus, the fact that none of us know how 'gravity boots' work.

 

[Matthew Raymond]

So the idea of killing a Klingon accidentally with a single blow is pure hogwash and is an example of the lack of
basic science education by the writers.

In my opinion they should fire the writers and hire the writers of CSI or NCIS,etc,etc.

Are you serious?

I mean, sure the science of that encounter with the Klingon was dodgy, but shows like CSI are hardly the pinnacle of scientific accuracy.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

FYI, the Klingon spacesuits were featured again in episode 4: they mechanically extend out of the klingon armor the guys are always wearing anyway, and they lock in place in a matter of seconds.

 

[cultcross]

FYI, the Klingon spacesuits were featured again in episode 3: they mechanically extend out of the klingon armor the guys are always wearing anyway, and they lock in place in a matter of seconds.

Which really helps my Jaffa comparison

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I'm still trying to figure out how they recovered the Torchbearer and then got his coffin out to the hull of the ship.

 

[Matthew Raymond]

I'm still trying to figure out how they recovered the Torchbearer and then got his coffin out to the hull of the ship.

His suit was made from military-grade handwavium.

 

[137th Gebirg]

And covered in ablative plot-armor.

 

[Matthew Raymond]

And covered in ablative plot-armor.

No, that's Michael Burnham spacesuit. It's lined with corbomite.

 

[Noname Given]

And covered in ablative plot-armor.

To be fair - she, her suit and the Klingon and his suit hit the Beacon superstructure with some force/velocity and her Helmet 'glass' was cracked as a result. It could also be that impact that caused more damage to, and ultimately killed the Klingon in question.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Michael had to win the fight, or T'Kuvma, looking for justification to start a war, was ####ed.

The fight had to have been rigged somehow in Burnhams favour, by T'Kuvma.

Burnham was propelled by a rocket pack when she hit the Klingon, so you need to take the thrust into account. Plus, the fact that none of us know how 'gravity boots' work.

The answers have been inside you all along.

CHANG: With a direct torpedo hit you crippled our entire gravitational field, and two of your Starfleet crew beamed aboard wearing magnetic boots and did this.

Followed by...

CHEKOV: What are we looking for, sir?
SPOCK: Lieutenant?
VALERIS: Two pairs of gravity boots.

I was watching Larry Sanders go on about OJ a few nights ago, so I just had to double check the dates on this movie and the OJ murder, since I was a child on the other side of the world when both events took place.

 

[USS Firefly]

Just watched the first episode with my wife.
We thought the episode was ok, the Klingons and their ships did not looking great and are not so interesting.
And I was a little bit disappointed that they used Sarek, I would have preferred that they do not use known characters because this will keep the universe very small
DS9 has still the best pilot in our opinion

 

[kerchan]

writers had internal consistancy in ncis ...they ha

Are you serious?

I mean, sure the science of that encounter with the Klingon was dodgy, but shows like CSI are hardly the pinnacle of scientific accuracy.

The writers of NCIS and CSI had good writing skills.internal consistency...good byplay...good characterization...

Or even use writers from good shows.

 

[Matthew Raymond]

writers had internal consistancy in ncis ...they ha[...]

The writers of NCIS and CSI had good writing skills.internal consistency...good byplay...good characterization...

Or even use writers from good shows.

I didn't mean to imply that they were bad writers. I merely meant that their shows don't pass a certain level of scientific vigor.

 

[Spider]

I didn't mean to imply that they were bad writers. I merely meant that their shows don't pass a certain level of scientific vigor.

Star Trek shows never have. Even as realistic as The Expanse looks, it breaks science laws as well. All scifi TV does.

 

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

Star Trek shows never have. Even as realistic as The Expanse looks, it breaks science laws as well. All scifi TV does.

They don't have a choice, if they want to keep people interested. Newtonian space combat would more closely resemble crushingly boring jousting between two ships that are basically guns mounted with a cockpit and a motor. Accelerate, fire off a few shots as you pass, decelerate and turn about, repeat. Yawn.