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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x01 - "The Vulcan Hello"

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Nothing special, but it was still pretty good. Klingons are boring, weirdo science officer I didn't like. Oh look, let's out talk a computer just like Kirk did! But wait, don't you see, he's white on one side and black on the other?

I'll give it a few more episodes to stretch it's legs better, and I need to see Discovery before I start thinking about if CBSAA is worth it.
 
Remember on Enterprise when T'Pol was always the one urging Captain Archer to shoot the Klingons down every time they met them in an episode? Now we know why.

It would've made Unexpected and Sleeping Dogs much more interesting episodes.

Now excuse me, I'm going to immediately pay for and watch the second episode to this series I apparently hate.
 
I don't remember the initial response to Broken Bow being overexaggerated complaints about meaningless crap, which is what 90℅ of this negativity amounts to.
Just because you like it doesn't mean people can't have complaints. The first episode was 90% crap. That's not being negative, that's calling it like I see it. The 2nd episode is much better. Much more engaging, and not a bore-fest.
 
What was Majel's character doing on the Enterprise for the Talos mission when she was already XO on the Shenzhou for five years before (and two years after)?
Timey wimey weebly wobbly. I don't know the answer, but I really got the impression that this would become Pike's Number One.
 
^ Having complaints generally requires there to be something to complain about, and, for the most part, there was very little in this episode that was worthy of criticism.
 
The characters all still talk what one story editor at TNG used to call "the stilted Star Trek language."

The one guy talking to Burnham like an airline pilot was at least an attempt to break through that a bit. I don't mind Star Trek language, it helps sell the quasi-military environment and that they're working as professionals.
 
I don't remember the initial response to Broken Bow being overexaggerated complaints about meaningless crap, which is what 90℅ of this negativity amounts to.

Broken Bow was the greatest first episode of a Star Trek series ever. The first season of Enterprise was not-so-great, but it's first episode was amazing, timey-wimeyness and dull Archer included.

Here's hoping that the first season of Discovery reverses that prospect.
 
I liked Frain on Gotham, but I'm not feeling his Sarek. Not a pinch on Mark Lenard.
That might be the problem--unfair or not. Lenard was one of those guys who owned every frame he was ever in. Balance of Terror would not have been the same without him.

But then just look at how important Sarek has become to the franchise, even though, if you added all the time up (including his TNG appearances) it doesn't amount to a whole lot. But he made his mark because Lenard made it so.

And I think his presence was really important to the character. In a lot of ways, he was torn between the two worlds--and trying to make them work together--more than Spock was because his job literally depended on it. And yet Sarek came across as a guy who demanded attention and respect whenever he entered the room, no matter what people were saying behind his back.

That was all on Lenard. And I just don't get it from Frain.
 
Broken Bow was the greatest first episode of a Star Trek series ever. The first season of Enterprise was not-so-great, but it's first episode was amazing, timey-wimeyness and dull Archer included.

Here's hoping that the first season of Discovery reverses that prospect.
Yup. I gave Bow much higher marks. Honestly, I can't think of a weaker Star Trek pilot. I mean there were only five (Six if you include Cage.) And they're all better than this was.
 
I do everything to avoid spoilers and trailers. And what does space do. Put tones of footage, interviews and in-depth discussion RIGHT BEFORE the show. ... I didn't show up on time to get all these spoilers! Arg!
Ok, not spoilers but you know what I mean I wanted to know as little as possible so it would all be a surprise.

This is why I'm not getting cable back just to see Discovery on Space.
 
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