I like to think it was just a means to get around alien planets faster. Why should away teams walk everywhere?
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Sorry, I know that it was aboard the Franklin and that more than likely a member of the crew might of brought it with them, but it was just strange and just too much of a coincident to have a motorcycle handy for Kirk to ride in the movie.
What should he have ridden instead? Would it really be any different at all if it had been some previously unseen technobabble atv or something that was specifically designed for away teams?
Like the cop's space motorcycle from the '09 movie?
While a hovering craft would have been historically accurate (since "The 37s" [VOY] established that humans were using hovercraft in the 2030s), we've also seen shows that establish that wheeled cars and vehicles didn't die out (either because of personal preference, limitations in hover tech, or whatever) and co-exist alongside their flying brethren, so there's no reason that one of the Franklin's crewmembers couldn't or wouldn't have used a wheeled motorcycle.
While I didn't dislike the motorbike, I admit it might seem a bit jarring in a deep space, sci-fi context.
If Jaylah had found a Personal All-Terrain Exploration Vehicle and hotted it up LIKE a motorbike, that would have been less controversial, and perhaps more unique.
If Jaylah had found a Personal All-Terrain Exploration Vehicle and hotted it up LIKE a motorbike, that would have been less controversial, and perhaps more unique.
I imagine on Earth it's a fact of cost. The poor drive groundcars, the wealthier have hovercars and the rich fly high in the sky.
But also, I imagine a motorbike with wheels has a lot less to go catastrophically wrong with it than one that flies.
I finally watched "Beyond" last night. A surprisingly fun movie that managed to get some of the classic character interactions right. I particularly liked the homage to Nimoy's Spock. Ultimately, though, it was a predictable action flick that falls right on its nuts when the good guys turn the tide by blowing up the baddies with loud, obnoxious music. It was funny in "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" and "Mars Attacks!", but here? Just stupid writing. I never thought I'd say that about Pegg, but there it is.
And for the love of all that is decent, no more Evel Kirknievel. That was even worse than Picard's dune buggy rally.
And for the love of all that is decent, no more Evel Kirknievel. That was even worse than Picard's dune buggy rally.
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Watched on blu ray last night. Found the destruction of the Enterprise much more emotional when it was in my living room. I also found the CGI of the motorbike on the rocky path a bit less cheesy, but it still made me remember the 'floating' and 'bobbing' look it had on the big screen.
Enough with the nitpicks.
Overall, I love this movie more every time I see it. The visuals of the Enterprise engines and the new Warp effect are just stunning. All of the character performances are top notch. I kinda liked the fact that while Kirk is in he center seat, Scotty seems like Beyond's main character. No, I really like that.
Enough with the nitpicks.
Overall, I love this movie more every time I see it. The visuals of the Enterprise engines and the new Warp effect are just stunning. All of the character performances are top notch. I kinda liked the fact that while Kirk is in he center seat, Scotty seems like Beyond's main character. No, I really like that.
Saw it for the second time today. Must say I enjoyed it a lot again, and this time around I made my mom watch. She liked it so much she wants to see the previous two movies now. She'd been avoiding watching any Star Trek because it wasn't her cup of tea, but now she's all changed.
Strong character performances. A bit predictable, but that's essential if it is to be hallmark Star Trek. One thing that I didn't quite get though: How did Balthazar form such a huge number of followers who are aliens. I mean, what would he have told them? Follow me and you can witness the destruction of the Federation? How would it matter to them? Or did I miss a key piece of dialogue?
Strong character performances. A bit predictable, but that's essential if it is to be hallmark Star Trek. One thing that I didn't quite get though: How did Balthazar form such a huge number of followers who are aliens. I mean, what would he have told them? Follow me and you can witness the destruction of the Federation? How would it matter to them? Or did I miss a key piece of dialogue?
I missed it too on my first watch. They're a drone workforce left behind by the ancients. The only "real" baddies were the three Franklin survivors:
I'm watching the DVD now, the movie does sag a little in the middle on a 2nd viewing. But I'm noticing a lot more detail. It's too bad redshirts don't have main character powers. Kirk goes hand-to-hand with Krall and is fine, but redshirts immediately have their juices sucked.
Very good point - Krall/Edison should have at least made an attempt...
Although - perhaps the 'sucking' is more feeding for nourishment and replenishment than an offensive attack.
Although - perhaps the 'sucking' is more feeding for nourishment and replenishment than an offensive attack.
Didn't he need the Altimad tech to drain victims, something he didn't have when fighting Kirk at the end?
Yes.
Huh? Krall drained crew members on both the Enterprise during the initial attack and at the end on the Franklin. If there was tech involved, it must have been portable.
He drained a guy just before fighting Kirk BOTH times he fights Kirk.
I thought it was built in to his suit, in some way.
Oh, yeah, that's right. I'd need to see the movie again to refresh my memory on how we see him using it, but I like @fireproof78 's theory:
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