Spoilers STAR TREK BEYOND - Grading & Discussion

[The Librarian]

I wouldn't worry about the TV show. Not only are they owned by separate companies, but it is apparently already making plenty of money just from the overseas Netflix license. Trek TV in general, and TNG in particular, has been a surprisingly reliable money maker for CBS through licensing.

 

[indranee]

thanks.. I'm so glad. To me, Trek belongs on the small screen. It's its proper home, and judging from all the bits and pieces I'm hearing about its premise, I'm really looking forward to it.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Just home from seeing it. Went in expecting an utter pile of shite, but was left somewhat surprised, it's alright. Of the three NuTrek films its probably the best offering.

I now know, when going to see this timeline expect dross, as it can only go up from there.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...es-69-ghostbusters-topping-100m/#99e15bd6736e



Shit. OMG.

Forbes is all doom and gloom when it comes the Trek movies. And frankly most of Forbes' articles are clickbait crap.

 

[tomalak301]

I rewatched the film today. I really really liked Jaylah in this movie. In fact, one could argue that this was Scotty's movie and the scene where he is talking her into helping get the crew out of Krall's base was probably my favorite scene in the movie.

I also was able to catch some more references, like the Transporter splicing from Tuvix, or quoting Shakespeare from TNG and The Undiscovered Country. Wasn't there a Voyage Home reference after the Shakespeare line? I totally forgot what it was.

I think I'm leaving my grade at 4 stars out of 5. It was very enjoyable the second time, but I still like the more calmer Star Trek films. That Sabotage scene though is still all kinds of awesome.

 

[Terok Nor]

Just saw it. Loved it. The best of the reboot movies. It had its own story that didn't rely on past storylines or characters from TOS. It was brand new! All the crew got something to do and Jaylah was awesome. Only negative was the villain. Very paper thin but not bad enough to ruin the movie. I hope they get to do another movie now that they've finally stood on their own two feet.

 

[Malformed]

Well, I went and saw it again this weekend and in 2D. Much better the second time around.
The first time, in 3D, I was a bit overwhelmed by all the action and it was hard to track. I think it took a little but away from the human element, which was much stronger in 2D. I was more engaged with the characters this time, my old friends that they are, and the character arcs worked better for me. The action also made more sense. Mostly. While brighter, the set piece at the downed saucer was still hard to follow at times. And how did it suddenly become night?

It's one of the features of modern action movies, it seems, that the human frame is subject to impact trauma that should have resulted in more injuries. It's mostly Kirk who suffers from this, being thrown into a bulkhead by Krall, and then hitting that huge rock after Jaylah releases him. I deal with these sort of things professionally and they really should tone it down a bit. James T. Kirk may be a hero, but he's not a superhero.

Likewise Bones was a little too much over the top at times, though I love Karl Urban. I would like to see more softer Bones moments, where we see the soft heart under the crankiness. We do see that, I just want more. Also, the wound to Spock was in his torso, not his "iliac region" which would be lower and closer to his hip.

All that said, I'm giving it an A-. I left the theater in a jolly, positive mood and had the usual heightened visual sense of my surroundings – which is always a sign to me that I have seen a good movie.

Bring on the next one!

 

[BillJ]

Likewise Bones was a little too much over the top at times, though I love Karl Urban. I would like to see more softer Bones moments, where we see the soft heart under the crankiness. We do see that, I just want more. Also, the wound to Spock was in his torso, not his "iliac region" which would be lower and closer to his hip.

I don't know anything about medicine. Is there anything that would prevent the "iliac region" from being in a different place on a Vulcan?

 

[M'Sharak]

I don't know anything about medicine. Is there anything that would prevent the "iliac region" from being in a different place on a Vulcan?

Well, "iliac" would usually refer to something in immediate proximity to the ilium, or hip bone, but there's another usage in which it can refer to the flank, or area between hip bone and the lowest rib. I think you'd probably expect to find the iliac region in about the same place on a Vulcan as you would on a human.

 

[Samuel T. Cogley]

Finally saw it tonight. They fucking nailed it! So good to see Kirk, Spock, and McCoy in their element. I am starting to believe that Star Trek can never die...

And with that, I am out of here for a while, so you assholes can't ruin it for me.

 

[maneth]

I really enjoyed this one. The action was a bit too fast and furious in some spots for this middle-aged viewer, but I wasn't expecting anything else with Lin in the director's chair. This was the Trek I was expecting in 2009. The characters are finally settled in their roles and Kirk has matured nicely as a captain. In comparison with Nero and Harrison/Khan, Krall was a more interesting villain.

 

[Belz...]

Another big problem of Star Trek movies

They cost a fortune to make so they have to do incredible at the box office

Maybe if they didn't make them action movies they wouldn't cost so much.

 

[Guy Gardener]

How much money would they have saved if Star trek V had been entirely set in Yosemite National Park?

Actually after the fall of the US (WWIII?), and the parks were denationalized, because there was no government, after man rebuilt, what I wonder were the status of the former national parks now that disreputable persons were free to pull some shady shit?

 

[Malformed]

I don't know anything about medicine. Is there anything that would prevent the "iliac region" from being in a different place on a Vulcan?

Alright, technically that was medically correct. My bad. It's just that it's so rarely used, as usually in physical medicine and rehab work, I can'r remember the last time I heard that.

 

[BillJ]

Alright, technically that was medically correct. My bad. It's just that it's so rarely used, as usually in physical medicine and rehab work, I can'r remember the last time I heard that.

Thanks for the answer.

 

[RAMA]

Maybe if they didn't make them action movies they wouldn't cost so much.

All Star Trek movies are made and marketed as action movies.

 

[Captain April]

Grudgingly I enjoyed this one. Mostly due to the humour provided for once. I think Kirk's less than can-do attitude is wrong and Spock came off more dower than logical, but Urban was spot on as Bones (again) and Pegg's Scotty wasn't quite so flippant.

I may have to see it a second time to see if I enjoy it better.

 

[Terok Nor]

I agree Pegg was okay as Scotty this time. I couldn't abide him in the first two movies but he did fine in this one. I still don't think he holds a candle to Doohan but he'll do.

 

[Franklin]

Well, I went and saw it again this weekend and in 2D. Much better the second time around.
The first time, in 3D, I was a bit overwhelmed by all the action and it was hard to track. I think it took a little but away from the human element, which was much stronger in 2D. I was more engaged with the characters this time, my old friends that they are, and the character arcs worked better for me. The action also made more sense. Mostly. While brighter, the set piece at the downed saucer was still hard to follow at times. And how did it suddenly become night?

It's one of the features of modern action movies, it seems, that the human frame is subject to impact trauma that should have resulted in more injuries. It's mostly Kirk who suffers from this, being thrown into a bulkhead by Krall, and then hitting that huge rock after Jaylah releases him. I deal with these sort of things professionally and they really should tone it down a bit. James T. Kirk may be a hero, but he's not a superhero.

Likewise Bones was a little too much over the top at times, though I love Karl Urban. I would like to see more softer Bones moments, where we see the soft heart under the crankiness. We do see that, I just want more. Also, the wound to Spock was in his torso, not his "iliac region" which would be lower and closer to his hip.

All that said, I'm giving it an A-. I left the theater in a jolly, positive mood and had the usual heightened visual sense of my surroundings – which is always a sign to me that I have seen a good movie.

Bring on the next one!

Interesting, I thought the same thing about the night scene at the saucer. In my personal canon, I say it was a total solar eclipse the coincided with those events. There just wasn't time to enjoy it.

Agreed about the physical punishment stuff. Especially the crashing into things. Kirk should've broken some ribs on that fall onto the rock. Earlier, he should've had a back full of glass shards at the least in that fall with Krall on the Enterprise. Then there was all that smashing into buildings at the end. By rights, by the end of the movie, Jim Kirk should be one big bruise at least.

Agree with reservations about McCoy. Sometimes, I think the character is supposed to be a bit over-the-top annoying. That's why I loved it when Kirk told him, "Enough with the metaphors, all right?" in STID. Let's face it, McCoy can be a smart aleck. In the stress of the moment in STB, maybe reverted into being even more so as a way to cope. Make the situation less grave. I think he was also chosen as comic relief for this movie. I bet he had the most laugh lines by far. I'd saw some of the soft-hearted side in the beginning and at the end, with him obviously being the one who arranged Kirk's surprise birthday party.

As far as Spock's wound goes, from my point of view I guess it looked more life-threatening than it really was. Then again, we know Vulcans have strong constitutions. Maybe when Spock told McCoy he should leave him behind, McCoy could've remarked that no one else would've gotten that even that far, so shut up and keep walking.

 

[Yminale]

All Star Trek movies are made and marketed as action movies.

You mean all Trek movies since the TNG movies (well we can argue about Generations). I blame First Contact.