Spoiler! DONT HATE ME! I liked FC
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Haha if anyone wants anything 'set in stone' don't bother ...... she was hardly very clear in what she said!
All part of the suspense and keeping us dangling. And buying those books.
I guess there's hope after all. We'll just have to continue waiting it out. Lucky we've gotten pretty good at it by now.
Never underestimate Fan Power, it can propell people on parachutes or it can ressurect deceased Vice-Admirals!
Well call me crazy, but I loved Full Circle. And I have faith that Kirsten Beyer is going to do great things with the Voyager Relaunch.
I'll also be very surprised if Janeway doesn't return sooner or later.
I'll also be very surprised if Janeway doesn't return sooner or later.
Agreed. But after reading Full Circle, I believe Kirsten Beyer is the right person for the Voyager Relaunch, and the right person to bring her back, and do it right.
I couldn't agree more. Beyer is one of the few who can do justice to Voyager characters. She's a fan girl of Voyager (at least I think she is) so let her write it please. I have read enough of Voyager books where the story is somewhat alright, but some of the characters are off just because an author has not known them well enough.
i think it really helps the voyager novels that KB is an admitted voyager fan and you can really tell by the way she wrote the characters in both of her voyager novels.
btw, she has told me that janeway was one of her favorite trek characters and was very disappointed that she wouldn't get to continue writing about her. i now assume that's for the time being.
hey, tachyon, KB has admitted it to me in a post that voyager is one of her favorite trek series.
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Sorry but I don't get it. How can she claim to be a fan of Voyager and a fan of Janeway and accept to write stories in the current direction of the series?
If I had been the author responsible for the Voyager Relaunch and someone had told me that a character had been killed off in a TNG book and that I would have to write stories based on that scenario, I would have refused.
It would have been impossible for me to find inspiration and will to come up with such stories unless I have the option to bring back the character. In that case I would do it very soon.
Sorry but I don't get it. How can she claim to be a fan of Voyager and a fan of Janeway and accept to write stories in the current direction of the series?
If I had been the author responsible for the Voyager Relaunch and someone had told me that a character had been killed off in a TNG book and that I would have to write stories based on that scenario, I would have refused.
It would have been impossible for me to find inspiration and will to come up with such stories unless I have the option to bring back the character. In that case I would do it very soon.
I don't write fanfic - my skills don't warrant that. But I do read current TrekLit where the rest of the galaxy is going about the business of living without Janeway.
In RL I understand the need to feed your soul with things that bring you light and lift you up. The fact that some Janeway fans choose not to take the road presented them by Pocket at this time is no reflection upon their intelligence, discernment or emotional stability. It is a recognition that our own world has darkness aplenty and they choose not to indulge. It's almost a setting of themselves apart - they're in our world but not of it.
I suffer from a curiosity to see what comes next in the Trekverse and do not imagine I could do much better in determining the path our protagonists take. However these boards are full of highly creative intelligent bighearted people who can imagine alternate timelines very ably.
Their determination to create and inhabit alternate timelines/plans for the universe do not make them unfans of Trek. It makes them a unique breed which we should embrace as we should embrace all Trekfans. Their unique opinions and ideas can only make us a better and stronger group.
In RL I understand the need to feed your soul with things that bring you light and lift you up. The fact that some Janeway fans choose not to take the road presented them by Pocket at this time is no reflection upon their intelligence, discernment or emotional stability. It is a recognition that our own world has darkness aplenty and they choose not to indulge. It's almost a setting of themselves apart - they're in our world but not of it.
I suffer from a curiosity to see what comes next in the Trekverse and do not imagine I could do much better in determining the path our protagonists take. However these boards are full of highly creative intelligent bighearted people who can imagine alternate timelines very ably.
Their determination to create and inhabit alternate timelines/plans for the universe do not make them unfans of Trek. It makes them a unique breed which we should embrace as we should embrace all Trekfans. Their unique opinions and ideas can only make us a better and stronger group.
Simple. Kirsten Beyer is a professional.
She may also disagree with you. I've seen other people who consider themselves Voyager fans do that.
I don't care about the Janeway character at all, but I have to say I wasn't glad to see her killed, the reason being that she will inevitably be resurrected. Nothing cheapens a character more than repeated sensational "deaths" and "resurrections."
A well-told death can be great for a character and a great story to read, but in the never-ending quest to attract attention, "deaths" and "rebirths" are often abused by storytellers in popular culture to the point where they become essentially meaningless.
This is why, incidentally, I would hate to see someone like Picard, Kira or Sisko die in the relaunch books, because it would likely be cheapened by a return at some future time. I hope that prominent deaths of this kind do not become a trend in the Pocket Books unless the editors have the tenacity to make sure the characters stay dead within the context of these novels.
A well-told death can be great for a character and a great story to read, but in the never-ending quest to attract attention, "deaths" and "rebirths" are often abused by storytellers in popular culture to the point where they become essentially meaningless.
This is why, incidentally, I would hate to see someone like Picard, Kira or Sisko die in the relaunch books, because it would likely be cheapened by a return at some future time. I hope that prominent deaths of this kind do not become a trend in the Pocket Books unless the editors have the tenacity to make sure the characters stay dead within the context of these novels.
flemm, that's pretty easy to say if you don't care for the character in the first place, but if the character is your favorite, and you want to read stories about that character, then someone has made a decision that discounted you. I don't see how bringing a well loved character back, cheapens anything, the death they gave her was cheap in the first place, it shouldn't have been done.
The really professional thing to do is apologize for making a mistake, set it right and go on. That pretty much works in all occasions. Even Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't get away with killing his own character (Sherlock Holms), he brought the great detective back because fans of the character demanded it.
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The really professional thing to do is apologize for making a mistake, set it right and go on. That pretty much works in all occasions. Even Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't get away with killing his own character (Sherlock Holms), he brought the great detective back because fans of the character demanded it.
Brit
Mirror, evil, Janeway will make the crossover from the mirror universe and assume command of her vessel from that wooden plank Chakotay. This way they don't have to retcon Janeway's death, while bringing back a beloved character. The story potential for making the Mirror Janeway good is huge. We'll be able to watch her grow and mature into the Janeway we knew all over again. These stories practically write themselves.
Tuvok: "Captain, the alien vessel is locking weapons on us."
*Voyager shakes violently from a powerful blast*
Tuvok: "Shields down to 93.5%"
Janeway: "Target their warp core! Photon torpedos, full spread!"
Chakotay: "Kathryn, remember what we talked about?"
*Janeway blows air impatiently out of her mouth*
Janeway: "But they're attacking us!"
Chakotay: "It's probably just a misunderstanding..."
Janeway: "Fine...Tuvok lock phasers, disable their weapons."
Tuvok: "Firing phasers. Their weapons are disabled."
Chakotay: "See that wasn't so bad was it?"
Janeway: "Whatever. I'll be in my quarters. Join me later, after you talk to these asshats. I've got some maneuvers I need to go over with you."
Chakotay: "Again?"
Janeway: "That's an order." WINK WINK
*Janeway strides into the turbolift at ludicrous speed*
See? Everybody's happy. J/C are together. Janeway's alive. The crew's back together. It's all good.
I do sympathize with your feelings on the subject, and I agree that her death was not well-written. However, one of the reasons these decisions are made is that shaking things up and losing a prominent character attracts attention and creates controversy. So then you wait awhile and then you write the "Return," which becomes another event and attracts some more attention for increased sales (ideally).
I would hate to see the relaunch novels degenerate into a series of repeated "events" of this kind involving prominent characters. It is the precedent that concerns me, especially if it is a successful one (meaning that Pocket infers that killing Janeway and eventually bringing her back increased sales of the Voyager novels).
My point is: she will almost certainly return, making this whole series of events an exercise in futility (except insofar as it generates some sales).
Preach!
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