Spinoff....

[drt]

If they did this continuation I would assume all the contracts would need to be renegotiated, giving them room to cut out more expensive actors/crew and lowering salaries of some of the others.

The only main cast that has to return are Peck, Gooding, Bush and Quinn; of those, only Peck would likely cost anything to retain. Wesley gets moved up to main cast from recurring. Everyone else on SNW could be dropped via death, reassignment or going to Vulcan for an additional medical residency. Freeing salary space for McCoy (sorry, nobody gives a shit about Mark Piper, he'll just get swapped in at the end of the final episode to satisfy canon) and Mitchell as new series leads. Neither Sulu and Chekov are regular bridge crew, so they could be recurring. Chong and Navia likely also wouldn't be crazy expensive if they wanted to keep Ortegas and/or La'an for some additional female balance (or add in a new female character entirely).

 

[UssGlenn]

Yeah Chekov was 22 in season 2, Implying he was a new graduate but, like Uhura, he could be on board at a younger age while a cadet.

We could take the "Generations" exchange literally.
Chekov:" I was never that young"
Kirk: "No, you were younger"

 

[DarKush]

I would rather not see a Year One spin-off. I'm not into Wesley's Kirk and I don't care much for the SNW showrunners' approach to Trek. That being said, if there has to be a spin-off, I think there's far more flexibility to spin-off Number One, La'An, Pelia, and Ortegas on a different ship and it could be a parallel series to the Original Series, with the occasional crossover with Kirk's Enterprise. They aren't running into as many imposed constraints, and they could use the series to delve deeper into many of the species and stories that are in the Original Series, as well as have their own stories with new opponents.

After finishing SNW, I don't think we need to see yet another series set on a 23rd century Enterprise, unless it's movie era or the Enterprise-B. I would rather they make another Constitution class ship a hero ship and save the next Enterprise adventure for Legacy.

 

[V'Lias]

The only main cast that has to return are Peck, Gooding, Bush and Quinn; of those, only Peck would likely cost anything to retain. Wesley gets moved up to main cast from recurring. Everyone else on SNW could be dropped via death, reassignment or going to Vulcan for an additional medical residency. Freeing salary space for McCoy (sorry, nobody gives a shit about Mark Piper, he'll just get swapped in at the end of the final episode to satisfy canon) and Mitchell as new series leads. Neither Sulu and Chekov are regular bridge crew, so they could be recurring. Chong and Navia likely also wouldn't be crazy expensive if they wanted to keep Ortegas and/or La'an for some additional female balance (or add in a new female character entirely).

I could easily see a scenario like this happening if they decide to continue. I do hope that they transfer all the non TOS characters out instead of killing them off.

I would rather not see a Year One spin-off. I'm not into Wesley's Kirk and I don't care much for the SNW showrunners' approach to Trek. That being said, if there has to be a spin-off, I think there's far more flexibility to spin-off Number One, La'An, Pelia, and Ortegas on a different ship and it could be a parallel series to the Original Series, with the occasional crossover with Kirk's Enterprise. They aren't running into as many imposed constraints, and they could use the series to delve deeper into many of the species and stories that are in the Original Series, as well as have their own stories with new opponents.

You about read my mind on this! I remember laying out a similar idea somewhere, not sure if it was here or elsewhere. I have come to enjoy Wesley's Kirk, and I do enjoy most of SNW's stories, but I think a companion series like this would be the way to go if they want to stay in the same era.

 

[Uhura's Song]

What are your opinions? For me this is a big yes.

'Star Trek: Year One' series with Paul Wesley's Kirk is '100 percent' dream plan (exclusive)

A 'Star Trek: Year One' series, about the first year of Paul Wesley's Kirk as captain, is '100 percent' the dream plan. 'Nothing would make us happier,' showrunners say.

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I prefer Legacy.

But I will likely like Kidk more than Academy.

Wonder if La'An and Ortegas would carry over?

 

[Mr J]

In the same way the upcoming Star Fleet Academy could be thought of/seen as Star Trek Discovery Season 6?

So yeah, there appears to be a precedent for things like this in the Kurtzman Trek era.

Hmmm no I don't think so really.

Starfleet Academy is clearly a spin-off. It has a distinct new location, a new main cast, and only a few characters carried over from Discovery. It’s not the same show at all. The focus is different—centered on younger characters and aimed at a different demographic—which opens up the potential for entirely new types of stories.

Star Trek: Year One, on the other hand, is very much a continuation of SNW. It picks up after the five-year mission, once Pike’s era (aka the interesting USP bit of the SNW concept) has been fully explored. The creators have even mentioned reusing the same sets and continuing with much of the same main cast. In essence, it’s SNW Season 6, still set on the Enterprise (NCC-1701), and still pre-TOS.

And we already know where this story leads: it transitions into TOS. The scope is clearly very much narrower than SFA.

SFA, despite being a spin-off from Discovery, has far more room to explore new territory. It’s not just “more Discovery”—at least, it has the potential not to be. In contrast, Year One is more constrained.

That’s not to say Year One couldn’t feel fresh—if they change the tone, the characters, or the storytelling style, it could evolve. But with the same sets, same location, and mostly the same cast, it feels much more like a continuation than a new show. Plus, the post-Pike era has a limited window before we reach WNMHGB - how much can you really mine in that year or so story-wise?. It feels more like just carrying on from where SNW should be ending up anyway than a new show.

Meanwhile, the 32nd century setting of SFA offers much broader scope, especially with a new target audience, mostly new locations, and a largely new cast - as well as of course being set in an era we only got 3 seasons of DISCO to explore, which inherently has some more scope for freshness. I don't think its a fair comparison.

Now a one-off movie for Year 1 could be fun and make a lot more sense IMO if we want to tell that first year story - and relatively inexpensive for a TV movie as long as the cast cooperate and they keep hold of the sets long enough. That could be a way you could make it sufficiently new inherently just by shaking up the format into a feature length.

 

[Mage]

I would rather not see a Year One spin-off. I'm not into Wesley's Kirk and I don't care much for the SNW showrunners' approach to Trek. That being said, if there has to be a spin-off, I think there's far more flexibility to spin-off Number One, La'An, Pelia, and Ortegas on a different ship and it could be a parallel series to the Original Series, with the occasional crossover with Kirk's Enterprise. They aren't running into as many imposed constraints, and they could use the series to delve deeper into many of the species and stories that are in the Original Series, as well as have their own stories with new opponents.

After finishing SNW, I don't think we need to see yet another series set on a 23rd century Enterprise, unless it's movie era or the Enterprise-B. I would rather they make another Constitution class ship a hero ship and save the next Enterprise adventure for Legacy.

Even though I do enjoy Wesley's Kirk and SNW's stories, I agree with your post. I've mentioned this before, but this is the third set of Kirk/Spock and co we've had. I know, we don't have all the TOS characters yet, but I'm pretty sure we will at the end of SNW. Star Trek has so much potential, keeping it locked in the TOS era again (first two seasons of Discovery, SNW and of course TOS itself) is not needed I feel. The caveat being, like you said and I mentioned elsewhere on the forum, a show set during TMP and TWOK. Or Lost Era. I would prefer those over Legacy myself.

 

[FederationHistorian]

(sorry, nobody gives a shit about Mark Piper, he'll just get swapped in at the end of the final episode to satisfy canon)

It’s the job of the writers to make the audience give a shit about Piper.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It’s the job of the writers to make the audience give a shit about Piper.

They did it for Chapel, so who knows?

 

[gweeps]

Please don't Star Wars Star Trek...

 

[Scanlan]

SFA, despite being a spin-off from Discovery, has far more room to explore new territory. It’s not just “more Discovery”—at least, it has the potential not to be. In contrast, Year One is more constrained.

The other side of the coin here is that Starfleet Academy may be a new concept for a Star Trek show, but there are a lot of shows these days that have a "young adults handling interpersonal issues in a work/study environment" angle to them.

By comparison, episodic sci fi is a very rare thing even if it might seem worn out within the context of the history of Star Trek. Considering we're talking about having only 10 or less episodes every year or two it's not like we're anywhere near it feeling stale.

 

[fireproof78]

Please don't Star Wars Star Trek...

Too late with the prequel craze and Enterprise.

 

[Mudd]

Please don't Star Wars Star Trek...

They should be so lucky...

I don't ever want to see the post-23rd century "Trek universe" again, except maybe in a time travel episode...

As I think more about it, a post-TMP series or at least post-TOS/pre-TMP show might be more likely and practical. If the new PSKY leadership has plans for the franchise, they're likely theatrical and based around TOS. So doing a TV series in that exact setting with current cast may be off the table - if they'd permit it at all.

Post-TMP, they'd probably repaint the sets a bit and do new wardrobe...

 

[Mr J]

The other side of the coin here is that Starfleet Academy may be a new concept for a Star Trek show, but there are a lot of shows these days that have a "young adults handling interpersonal issues in a work/study environment" angle to them.

By comparison, episodic sci fi is a very rare thing even if it might seem worn out within the context of the history of Star Trek. Considering we're talking about having only 10 or less episodes every year or two it's not like we're anywhere near it feeling stale.

Yes absolutely there is loads of potential to do more SNW - but it leans much more into just being SNW S6 (that Paramount have already passed on) than a new show.

At least with SFA, thats a new area for this franchise to explore (young adult), its in a different kind of setting for ST, and its set in an era we haven't had much chance to explore. For Year One, I personally just can't see what you can mine out of that one year in canon history for a spin-off, that by the ending of SNW I sort of hope we'd have reached the end of the interesting bit for anyway.

Like I said in the full post, a one-off movie for Year One would make more sense to me - an inherently shakes up the format into something that Paramount haven't already passed on. It could make a super fun and relatively cost-effective TV movie to follow-up S31 with, given they have the sets. An origin movie of sorts for TOS in the Prime Universe.

I do suspect however that a Kirk TV movie or show isn't going to be in the offing whilst the movie division sorts out what the heck they want to do with the Kelvinverse movies though. In fact, part of me wonders - cost savings aside - if that is part of the reason SNW is wrapping up (e.g. avoid TOS at all costs).

 

[FederationHistorian]

Like I said in the full post, a one-off movie for Year One would make more sense to me

As I’ve said in a different post, Year One should be an anthology series. focusing on the first year of captains of the Enterprise or other Connie ships i.e. April, Pike, Kirk, Matt Decker on the USS Constellation, Bob Wesley on the USS Lexington.

Now, if they do not want to focus on Matt Decker and Bob Wesley, fine. Make a season about Una set during TOS, and another season with Spock set between TMP and TWOK. With characters from WNMHGB being recurring characters throughout the series.

The point remains that Year One as it’s being currently pitched is undercooked. I’m not sure why I should care about completion of the TOS gang getting together as a show.

 

[Mr J]

As I’ve said in a different post, Year One should be an anthology series. focusing on the first year of captains of the Enterprise or other Connie ships i.e. April, Pike, Kirk, Matt Decker on the USS Constellation, Bob Wesley on the USS Lexington.

Now, if they do not want to focus on Matt Decker and Bob Wesley, fine. Make a season about Una set during TOS, and another season with Spock set between TMP and TWOK. With characters from WNMHGB being recurring characters throughout the series.

The point remains that Year One as it’s being currently pitched is undercooked. I’m not sure why I should care about completion of the TOS gang getting together as a show.

Yeah, thats a good shout - its the format of a series that feels undercooked (though in fairness, we don't know exactly that is what is being pitched)

A movie, an anthology - something contained yes great! A regular series that is basically SNW S6 without the USP of Pike's unexplored time onboard? No thanks.

 

[Mr Awe]

This is true - but if the plan was always the five year mission of Pike, surely some of the big ticket stars would all be gone anyway?

And I'd imagine Uhura for example - after 5 years would want a pay rise.

Yeah, I've mentioned how actor availability and pay are the biggest risks preventing Star Trek: Year One. On the plus side, it leans into the most sellable ST characters and era, the design, sets, and CG models are all in place.

 

[Mr J]

Yeah, I've mentioned how actor availability and pay are the biggest risks preventing Star Trek: Year One. On the plus side, it leans into the most sellable ST characters and era, the design, sets, and CG models are all in place.

Yes true - though in a weird way, I wonder if that might actually go against them if the movie division is thinking about doing something with that era/location again... studio politics, always fun!

 

[Mr Awe]

Yes true - though in a weird way, I wonder if that might actually go against them if the movie division is thinking about doing something with that era/location again... studio politics, always fun!

That could be true but it's also a big IF at this point. And the fact that the current SNW showrunners are pushing for Year One is another big plus in its favor compared to other possibilities. But yeah, studio politics. We shall see!

 

[FredH]

I admit I don’t see much point in a Year One (though of course I’d watch it, I’m a lemming), because what’s it really going to bring that we don’t already have? I’d much prefer a post-TMP series — but the thing is, I doubt the not-we remember TMP well enough to make it economically worthwhile, or in any way a selling point to a mass audience the way it would be to, say, me.