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Smallville Summer Hiatus Thread III (Spoilers)

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I see and understand that.
Othello seems to want to belittle my opinion even though you have seen where I am coming from and I have made a strong argument for it.

Either way...I am done with this topic(Lex/Lana), I have said all I need to say on it.

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Maybe they can bring back Eric Johnson to play in a different role. :lol:

I actually liked Whitney. :(
 
You mean the government faked his death in the Indonesian War?

That is pretty cool.

Have him wrapped like Claude Raines.

The Unknown frakking Soldier.

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I'm watching Scrooged right now, and Look! It's Lionel Luthor sans beard.

Flash Gordon started out horrid, I actually had to wait 2 years between viewing the first and second episodes to calm down from absorbing such drenn, but Eric wasn't too horrid and despite the budget the writing really came together near the end tied everything together throughout the last half dozen episodes.
 
I never said they should stay together forever. I said it should have lasted longer. An bad relationships are comonplace in thw wolrd let alone a tv show. It makes perfect sense. Women go with monster and bad men all the time.

I would also add that Lana has serious dark side to that sweetness. She made a TON of choices that anyone would say is coming from that evil everyone has inside them and is capable of. Lex never made her do anything. She chose many of those dubious acts of her own free will. "Free will.. it's a bitch" Watch The Devil's Advocate. He only set the choices in front of her.. but she pulled the strings....

Until he kills her? Lex manipulated her from the beginning...I am talking S1. Many of her dark choices are because of her relationship with Lex, both from friendship and later romantic.
Oh.. I hate it when people make that lame ass excuse. YOU are responsible for your choices and actions. No one else. Lex didn't sit there and put a gun to her head to make those choices. She FREELY made them in relation to her own desires and wishes as they related to her wants and needs in the situations she was in.


Because they both were looking for something in the other that each thought the other could provide but ultimately they were both too damaged to last.

For Lana- In Lex she thought she was getting from him what she could never get with Clark. Letting her in and sharing himself with her. Lex was constantly doing things to help her, willign to die to protect her and constantly help her along the way. Add in his willingness to look out for her emotionally while she dealt with clark's BS he also brought her into many private aspect of his life he didn't share with others. he seemed to place a much greater trust and openness with her with important stuff than Clark ever did.

For Lex- he thought she was going to be his redemption. The pure and good soul that will lead him to right. The woman that would prove that the good in him was stronger than the evil. She was his path to salvation and a woman he felt he could love and make his life whole and meaningful. Add in the jealousy issues with Clark and you've got the perfect lure for his attraction.

What we see is that they both WERE CAPABLE of giving that to each other. It was ENTIRELY POSSIBLE but did not happen. Imagine yourself in Lex's shoes. Would you want to give up the woman you loved after such a short time or would you fight like hell to do everything in your power to tell fate to go ^&%$ itself?! Especially given how Lex was raised to view the world?
Lex only does what benefits him, his friendships included.
That is psychotic. He never loved Lana, Lana knew this by the end of S6. Don't confuse obsession with love. Once again if you look back...Lex was grooming Lana...I have no doubt in my mind that a) Lex knew Clark's secrets would prevent him from having a relationship with Lana b) When the time was right Lex always being there at the right time knew he could get Lana into a relationship.

Lex jealous of Clark from day 1 after the bridge...wanted what Clark had or would eventually have...meaning Lana.

None of what you said makes it a good pairing...it may be entertaining...but not good from a relationship point of view...which is what I at-least am talking about...and the longer it went on the less entertaining it became.
No, he doesn't. You don't take a bullet and throw yourself in the line of fire to save a woman unless it's in you to care about their safety above your own. Just doesn't happen. Now, Lex's dark side, ego, messiah complex, etc overwhelmed that part of him which was good but it's there. Heck they emphasized that point, rather darkly and entertainingly, in the episode where Clark wnent into Lex's brain to save him and encountered his good side. Also, in your a and b points, Sorry,.. bullpucky. I'd have to do research to find out where the change happened but Lex truly was pushing to help Clark and Lana make a connection. MANY times he gave Clark and Lana very good advice that in any normal situation would likely have resulted in their pairing. That belies your point it was that way from the beginning. There was truly an effort to try and help Clark there. That's where we see he truly is trying to help Clark but his darker motivations are more primarily focused elsewhere. But the more Clark stonewalled him, things didn't add up and the more he came to see Lana for who she really was there came a point where he started to look out for himself and his interests rather than trying to help someone who doesn't trust him.

Also, where did I say it was a good and healthy relationship? I didn't. I said it makes sense and was entertaining and as a result wanted it to last longer.
 
See I can understand both of your points regarding Lex and Lana but ultimately it does come down to the fact that Lex's inability to handle intimate social relationships in a "normal" manner is what broke down their relationship. Lana saw good in Lex and as Othello pointed out he thought she could redeem him...Clark saw that same potential in Luthor but Lex never is going to fullfill that because IT ISN'T IN HIS NATURE (caps for emphasis not yelling). I wish the two of you could see the point I'm trying to make. I'm not disagreeing with either of the points you've been making but I'm trying to explain why it failed as did his friendship with Clark. They both stem from the same source...Lex Luthor and this is why he will never be a good person. Lex knows that somewhere deep inside of him he can be this great person but because of the way he was brought up and taught ethics and morals he will never amount to that.

I don't disagree with anything you said there. Not one bit. I think you and I are in agreement actually. You're not the one I have a beef with. ;)
 
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I see and understand that.
Othello seems to want to belittle my opinion even though you have seen where I am coming from and I have made a strong argument for it.

Either way...I am done with this topic(Lex/Lana), I have said all I need to say on it.

:)


I'm not belittling it. I'm saying you are wrong. :lol: There's a difference.
 
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I see and understand that.
Othello seems to want to belittle my opinion even though you have seen where I am coming from and I have made a strong argument for it.

Either way...I am done with this topic(Lex/Lana), I have said all I need to say on it.

:)


I'm not belittling it. I'm saying you are wrong. :lol: There's a difference.

I am not wrong(an opinion can't be wrong) and if you want to continue to be a jerk about it then so be it. I am going to ignore you.
 
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all we remember is freak of the week, but when i watched season one and two last year, it was amazing how PLOTTED the the first two seasons with Clarks development and love life. Hells it almost made sense.

lex was into her. We just have to say retroactively that he wasn't to explain the subsequent conclusion, but if it had had a happy ending then every thing we perceive to be dark would be bright and shiny.

On the other hand... Lex would so take a bullet if the reward on the other end outwieghed the bullshitiness of being shot, it's how he was raised, chess, seemingly significant sacrifices sewing certain success, for which he probably would have done so, considering he had to have Clark's "girl".
 
Tom Welling & Smallville Nominated For Teen Choice Awards

Choice TV Show: Fantasy/Sci-Fi
“Fringe”
“Lost”
“Smallville”
“Supernatural”
“The Vampire Diaries”

Choice TV Actor: Fantasy/Sci-Fi
Josh Holloway, “Lost”
Joshua Jackson, “Fringe”
Ryan Kwanten, “True Blood”
Tom Welling, “Smallville”
Paul Wesley, “The Vampire Diaries”

http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htm

Not great...but something. :lol:

I don't see Tom or Smallville actually winning though. :lol:
 
Hmm...does anyone else find it a bit...odd that True Blood is on the nominee list for the teen choice awards. :p
 
Not really, it's a teenagers job, and younger, to find porn, drugs, alcohol and willing sexual partners.

Life gets a hell of a lot less interesting once all that stuff is permissible.
 
Oh, I'm not saying that teens wouldn't watch it...I'm just surprised that an "awards show" (note the quotes) would somewhat advocate it for teens.
 
Tom Welling & Smallville Nominated For Teen Choice Awards

Choice TV Show: Fantasy/Sci-Fi
“Fringe”
“Lost”
“Smallville”
“Supernatural”
“The Vampire Diaries”

Choice TV Actor: Fantasy/Sci-Fi
Josh Holloway, “Lost”
Joshua Jackson, “Fringe”
Ryan Kwanten, “True Blood”
Tom Welling, “Smallville”
Paul Wesley, “The Vampire Diaries”

http://www.kryptonsite.com/news.htm

Not great...but something. :lol:

I don't see Tom or Smallville actually winning though. :lol:

Given the people who actually vote for these things, I thoroughly expect Robert Pattinson to win despite not being in a television show.
 
Lost will probably win or "The Vampire Diaries" since this is a teen choice award show and either Josh Holloway or the dude from "True Blood" will win. I think Tom one of these a long time ago :)
 
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