Smallville 9x04 "Echo" - Discussion and Spoilers

[Checkmate]

Because Lois knew copyboy took the last maple. For Clark to zip to

and get fresh box in under a minute (he still has to wait for them to be boxed and pay for them, in theory), that would be suspicious.

Clark once super-sped to Vermont to get Lana some maple syrup and he was gone in the span of an eye-blink.

Surely going down the street to get a box of donuts would be asy for The Blur!

I think the point you're missing in his argument is that Lois knew "copyboy" snagged the last doughnut.

Of course that argument is blown out of the water by her not being suspicious of Clark having it. Or the fact that he didn't have one in his hands during their conversation, let alone having taken a bite out of it.

I also find it interesting that Clark apparently has no problem stealing from people if it means he might get some pussy out of it. "Crime doesn't pay (unless you get some boo-tay)" is his new motto.

 

[Photoman15]

This season is ..............
Get rid of Zod, get rid of Jor-El.
Superman/Clark doesn't seem to have any control over his life. It's being run by a dead man. Stop with the Kryptonian stuff. I haven't read the comics for years now, but that's not what Superman was about. If this is the last (or next to last) season, let's see Clark grow up into Superman. Just IMHO

 

[Brent]

let's see Clark grow up into Superman. Just IMHO

we've been asking for that for years now, some moments they succeed, the majority they go backwards

 

[Icemizer]

Thought Lois looked really good this week but her inability to see/hear/notice Clark zipping in and out of the room is getting to be silly.

Its pretty obvious at the end that Clark didnt miss his deadline but did so just to have a reason to get back in good graces with Lois.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

Its pretty obvious at the end that Clark didnt miss his deadline but did so just to have a reason to get back in good graces with Lois.

Well yeah. Still pretty fucking ridiculous.

But hey, that was just the icing on the cake for this ep.

 

[Trekker4747]

Thought Lois looked really good this week but her inability to see/hear/notice Clark zipping in and out of the room is getting to be silly.

Its pretty obvious at the end that Clark didnt miss his deadline but did so just to have a reason to get back in good graces with Lois.

It's been shown/established and suggested that the effects we see when Clark moves is for our benefit and not something the characters in the show can see. I'm guessing he slows down a bit in order to be "seen" as The Blur.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

^ Yep. He commented on how it was difficult to slow down just enough so the cameras around Metropolis could see his Blur last season.

And back when Lana first saw him using his powers, all she saw of his speed was him instantly disappearing instead of the usual effect.

 

[DarthPipes]

Thought Lois looked really good this week but her inability to see/hear/notice Clark zipping in and out of the room is getting to be silly.

Its pretty obvious at the end that Clark didnt miss his deadline but did so just to have a reason to get back in good graces with Lois.

It's been shown/established and suggested that the effects we see when Clark moves is for our benefit and not something the characters in the show can see. I'm guess ing he slows down a bit in order to be "seen" as The Blur.

Right. The episode where Lana finally learns the truth about Clark (the one where she marries Lex) we see her watching Clark and Chloe talk in the wine cellar from her POV and Clark just completely disappears. Without a blink.

 

[nx1701g]

This season is ..............
Get rid of Zod, get rid of Jor-El.
Superman/Clark doesn't seem to have any control over his life. It's being run by a dead man. Stop with the Kryptonian stuff. I haven't read the comics for years now, but that's not what Superman was about. If this is the last (or next to last) season, let's see Clark grow up into Superman. Just IMHO

Clark trained in the Fortress for over 10 years before he became Superman.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In the some movie made for our great grand parents sure, or he was Superboy from the age of 7, or he was Superbaby for a while, or he spent ten years walking the earth just saving people as a stray gust of wind till he was finally found out.

Too many conflicting origins!!!

 

[Starwind]

It's been pretty obvious for years now that Smallville has its own continuity (such as it is). It's not going to be able to "line up" with any particular origin story. Now that tptb have stopped telling themselves they could, there could be some progress.

 

[Trekker4747]

It's been pretty obvious for years now that Smallville has its own continuity (such as it is). It's not going to be able to "line up" with any particular origin story. Now that tptb have stopped telling themselves they could, there could be some progress.

They were so busy asking themselves if they could they didn't stop to think if the should.

 

[Agent Richard07]

It's been pretty obvious for years now that Smallville has its own continuity (such as it is). It's not going to be able to "line up" with any particular origin story. Now that tptb have stopped telling themselves they could, there could be some progress.

Every version of Superman has its own continuity and Smallville has, for the most part, held to the basics just like all the rest. The only big problem is how Clark can be Superman without being recognized by everyone who knows him. Oddly enough, this should have been a problem for every incarnation of Superman, but we let it go because we never got a detailed enough look into his upbringing to notice that it's a problem and question it.

 

[TGTheodore]

^^^ Oh, it'll probably some dumb convention where Superman's face looks different to mortals for some "meteor" reason, so Clark won't have to disguise his face at all.

--Ted

 

[StarTrek1701]

I honestly have no idea why I gave up on Smallville this season. Could be the no-resolution to the show, ever, or could be that the stories are getting crappier and stupider this season. Having Doomsday last season was the last straw I guess.

 

[Checkmate]

It's been pretty obvious for years now that Smallville has its own continuity (such as it is). It's not going to be able to "line up" with any particular origin story. Now that tptb have stopped telling themselves they could, there could be some progress.

Every version of Superman has its own continuity and Smallville has, for the most part, held to the basics just like all the rest. The only big problem is how Clark can be Superman without being recognized by everyone who knows him. Oddly enough, this should have been a problem for every incarnation of Superman, but we let it go because we never got a detailed enough look into his upbringing to notice that it's a problem and question it.

No, we were able to accept it because there was some attempt at a disguise. Weak as a pair of glasses and slightly different hairstyle is, at least it was something. A strain on your suspension of disbelief, but one that could be tolerated.

In Smallville we don't even get that. There's no way to reconcile that all these people won't know exactly who he is the moment Superman makes his debut.

All because they chose a pretty-boy model to play the role who thinks glasses makes him look like a nerd rather than a real actor.

 

[Agent Richard07]

^ You're right. If Welling had put on some glasses early on, and if he had adopted a different hairstyle as "The Blur", then maybe they could have pulled off a dual identity.

When I made my post though, I was thinking that in other versions of Superman, Clark didn't have the glasses when he was growing up, so people who knew him before he was "Daily Planet Clark Kent" should have recognized him when they saw Superman. That's something that other Superman material was able to ignore.

 

[Photoman15]

This season is ..............
Get rid of Zod, get rid of Jor-El.
Superman/Clark doesn't seem to have any control over his life. It's being run by a dead man. Stop with the Kryptonian stuff. I haven't read the comics for years now, but that's not what Superman was about. If this is the last (or next to last) season, let's see Clark grow up into Superman. Just IMHO

Clark trained in the Fortress for over 10 years before he became Superman.

Yes I know that, as well as other altered origin stories. BUT, the show is suffering because of dragging Zod storylines and the dead dad having all these powers (and the ability to give and take powers) that I don't believe any incarnation of the comic had (but as I said, I haven't read the comics for a few years).

 

[Cartoonist]

^ You're right. If Welling had put on some glasses early on, and if he had adopted a different hairstyle as "The Blur", then maybe they could have pulled off a dual identity.

When I made my post though, I was thinking that in other versions of Superman, Clark didn't have the glasses when he was growing up, so people who knew him before he was "Daily Planet Clark Kent" should have recognized him when they saw Superman. That's something that other Superman material was able to ignore.

I could swear I once read a story where they explained that when he's Superman, he subtly vibrates his head making his face appear to be different from Clark's.

That always seemed absurd to me (how could he keep that up all the time, even while fighting?), but it's something.

I suspect that once he's Superman, some sort of Kryptonian Fortress magic will alter everyone's perception of his appearance. Maybe some distortion thingamajig built into his costume that he can turn on and off with a thought. ...There, problem solved.

 

[Trekker4747]

Yeah the vibrating face thing never sat well with me either.

In the comics and movies his "diguise" is much more than the simple change of clothes. Superman is strong, brave, speaks with a deep voice and carries himself as the most powerful man on the planet. Clark? Not so much. Clark plays much more the "mild mannered everyday man" he plays it so much that people just don't draw the connection with the facial similarities because the personalities just don't match up. Further, anyone who wears glasses can tell you that they're always told when seen with glasses off they "look different." (Granted, neither of these excuses fly with Clark, so something else will have to be dreamt up.)

Superman Returns played this out nicely in the scene at the DP when Richard White jokingly suggests to Lois that Clark sort-of looks like Superman they both laugh. The idea is just absurd to them that this goofy, glasses-wearing goober could be the man of steel.

Superman's disguise as Clark is far, far more than a change of clothes and glasses it's his entire act.