Spoilers Skeleton Crew [Spoiler Discussion]

[EmoBorg]

As someone mentioned earlier, it is not important to know the name of the Jedi who taught Jod. Despite her own suffering, she taught what she could to Jod in the short time that she had. The Jedi for the most part, were good and she was almost certainly a good person. Her death seriously affected a young Jod's mindset about the outside world.

 

[Turtletrekker]

@Reverend --I was on the same page with you about this being connected to Palpatine until they revealed that the last message At-Attin received from the Republic was that the Jedi were traitors. That just seemed too odd and random of a fact to simply be coincidence. At least, that's how my mind processed it.

 

[Jayson1]

We're going to have to agree to disagree. Just because he didn't PERSONALLY harm a group of kids he spent time with doesn't absolve him from SICCING HIS PIRATES ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS. Or from, you know, attempting to enslave an entire planetary population to his greed.

Your rationalization feels a lot like "Sure, he murdered all those people. But he was always nice to me." Which just doesn't fly in my book, sorry.

I think his idea is that everyone would continue to do what they have always been doing under the droid leader. Only difference is now he would be in charge. In away they were already slaves to a system put in place without anyone even knowing who the real leader of their planet was.

 

[Dee1891]

I really enjoyed the finale, but I do have a few issues. And they involved questions unanswered. Who had created the Supervisor? And what happened to Jod? Did the New Republic send someone Force-sensitive - like Luke or Ahsoka - to arrest him? Or did he become a citizen of At Attim?

Watching this reminded me of the Season 1 "Discovery" episode called "What's Past Is Prologue". There was a moment when an angry Michael Burnham had yelled a Mirror Universe Gabriel Lorca for lying to the Discovery crew, claiming he didn't have to lie to them. All he had to do was ask for their help in returning to his timeline. And you know what? Jod could have taken a reward for returning the kids to At Attim and leave the planet via another route. Or . . . he could have taken enough credits for himself and his crew and leave. But he got too greedy and turned the kids and their parents against him.

 

[Crewman6]

What was Jod's plan in regards the credits?

Let's say it worked as he dreamed. The citizens of At-Attan are enslaved and they keep minting credits. Jod is on charge of the planet but seemed more interested in the credits... But to do what with the credits exactly? Fly to another planet and buy things?

The plan was kinda stupid. He could have filled his ship with more money that he could ever spend. The decision to "take over" At Attin was kind dumb and existed just to juice up the stakes in the last episode.

 

[Crewman6]

Screw "the lore". It was a fun ride.

Exactly. The last thing SW needs is more friggin' "lore." This show should be an example: Just make it fun, FFS.

 

[Crewman6]

Fun show, but a major letdown after The Acolyte. Not nearly as interesting and adds nothing to the SW universe as a whole.

I didn't hate the Acolyte, which had some great moments. But it also had a lot of stupid crap. This show is far, far more consistent and successful in its stated goals.

It doesn't need to "add anything to the universe" to be a good series.

 

[Reverend]

@Reverend --I was on the same page with you about this being connected to Palpatine until they revealed that the last message At-Attin received from the Republic was that the Jedi were traitors. That just seemed too odd and random of a fact to simply be coincidence. At least, that's how my mind processed it.

Yeah, like I said that would appear to confirm that the breaking point was much more recent that one would think, but it still doesn't quite add up. If the Republic knew about At Attin right up until the end of the Clone Wars; why didn't Palpatine take control of it, just like he did everything else? Also a single generation doesn't seem nearly enough time to allow for both Tak Rennod and At Attin to have entered into the realms of myth and folklore.

What makes the most sense to me is that they've been radio silent for much longer, and the Supervisor was just continuing to monitor an official government comms channel for bulletins as per his programming (possibly awaiting a specific all-clear code that was never transmitted), and the last message to go out over that old frequency before the Empire shut it off and switched it over to something new was Palpatine's declaration.

As for why specifying that connection at all; clearly it's just a convenient way of blowing Jod's cover. The show doesn't really have to elaborate on the details since all of the witherto's and whyfor's aren't really terribly relevant to the story. Indeed I rather appreciate how restrained the exposition has been on this show as a whole!

 

[Tuskin38]

Every planet except At Attin was apparently lost, maybe the republic thought At Attin was as well

 

[Fuddles]

I'm curious to see how the droids will react if there's trouble. Will they go full combat soldier or still be "Please put down the weapon or you will be stunned."

I can't believe the latter happened. I wanted to see the droids in full action, but they weren't even an issue.

No real bad guys though on the planet, and they had the barrier to protect them, so maybe they didn't want lethal droids to protect a peaceful population.

 

[Crewman6]

Yeah, like I said that would appear to confirm that the breaking point was much more recent that one would think, but it still doesn't quite add up. If the Republic knew about At Attin right up until the end of the Clone Wars; why didn't Palpatine take control of it, just like he did everything else? Also a single generation doesn't seem nearly enough time to allow for both Tak Rennod and At Attin to have entered into the realms of myth and folklore.

What makes the most sense to me is that they've been radio silent for much longer, and the Supervisor was just continuing to monitor an official government comms channel for bulletins as per his programming (possibly awaiting a specific all-clear code that was never transmitted), and the last message to go out over that old frequency before the Empire shut it off and switched it over to something new was Palpatine's declaration.

As for why specifying that connection at all; clearly it's just a convenient way of blowing Jod's cover. The show doesn't really have to elaborate on the details since all of the witherto's and whyfor's aren't really terribly relevant to the story. Indeed I rather appreciate how restrained the exposition has been on this show as a whole!

At Attin has been hidden for a long time, not just since the end of the Clone Wars. As a Republic mint literally dripping with credits, it had to be kept secret and safe from all possible threats.

As you point out, the Jedi becoming traitors was arguably the last official "Republic" transmission and they never received anything else. Possible that its existence was so protected even within the Republic that the Empire didn't know about it.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Just because he didn't PERSONALLY harm a group of kids he spent time with doesn't absolve him from SICCING HIS PIRATES ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS. Or from, you know, attempting to enslave an entire planetary population to his greed.

I'm pretty sure I'd already said the very same thing. *checks*

He will answer for their crimes [his henchmen's], as well as his own; despite ordering them not to harm the citizens of At Attin, they had already made examples of those who resisted.

Yep. I did.

I really don't see anything here or that I've posted anywhere that absolves him of anything he's done.

But I did disagree with statements you made that were contradicted by the facts. If he were the person you say, he wouldn't have hesitated to carve up Fern, Wim, and their parents in the control room. That was a line he refused to cross, at which he was repeatedly stymied when he had to choose whether to follow through with his vicious threats. And he did have his band of henchmen who up until the events of the story were the closet thing to family whom we know of and whom he was demonstrated to know the personal aspirations of well. He was not alone, and, despite what he could have gained for himself and his henchmen had he been able to harness At Attin, he did not allow greed even in proximity to this goal to take over as his sole motivation.

 

[Commander Troi]

Damn fine ending! I'm very pleased and liked this show far more than I expected to.

 

[David cgc]

What makes the most sense to me is that they've been radio silent for much longer, and the Supervisor was just continuing to monitor an official government comms channel for bulletins as per his programming (possibly awaiting a specific all-clear code that was never transmitted), and the last message to go out over that old frequency before the Empire shut it off and switched it over to something new was Palpatine's declaration.

I was thinking either that, or the Supervisor was literal-minded, and since he was programmed to work for the Galactic Republic, when he started monitoring transmissions with edicts and advisories from "the Galactic Empire," he just ignored them as irrelevant to his job.

I do agree that At-Attin probably dropped off the map and hadn't been visited since long before the Clone War, even if the Supervisor was still receiving broadcasts from the outside world up until the Republic fell.

 

[Ithekro]

I wonder if the Onyx Cinder crashed even farther back and added to how the droids enacted more defensive protocols in their contacts with the Republic? So that the process became automated, but when the Republic fell the Republic Mint's droids cut contract with the Empire, and no living being know how the money got there in the first place. Or it had been lost when Palpatine nationalized the banks during the Clone Wars.

 

[FredH]

We're going to have to agree to disagree. Just because he didn't PERSONALLY harm a group of kids he spent time with doesn't absolve him from SICCING HIS PIRATES ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS. Or from, you know, attempting to enslave an entire planetary population to his greed.

Your rationalization feels a lot like "Sure, he murdered all those people. But he was always nice to me." Which just doesn't fly in my book, sorry.

Jod is a type in a certain kind of family-friendly adventure fiction — the bad guy who’s definitely a bad guy, and has even killed people here and there… but darn it, you don’t actually want to see him die.

 

[JD]

Not sure what purpose such scenes would serve.

After so much of the first episode focused on what the kids' and their parents' lives were like before their adventure , it could have been nice to see how everything that happened changed things for them. And a little hint as to what exactly happened to Jod would have been nice to.

I'd like to imagine that was Leia coming in for a landing.

That thought crossed my mind too, I kept expecting to hear either her or Luke's voice at the end there.
It dawned on me now that I think this is the first Disney Star Wars production we've gotten that is completely stand alone and didn't feature any appearances from characters from other productions.
Even more that Luke & Leia, I was really shocked that Carson Teva wasn't one of the X-Wing pilots who showed up at the end. It would have been the perfect way to connect it back to wider galaxy, but not as distracting as a A-lister like Luke or Leia or Ahsoka would have been.

Yeah, like I said that would appear to confirm that the breaking point was much more recent that one would think, but it still doesn't quite add up. If the Republic knew about At Attin right up until the end of the Clone Wars; why didn't Palpatine take control of it, just like he did everything else? Also a single generation doesn't seem nearly enough time to allow for both Tak Rennod and At Attin to have entered into the realms of myth and folklore.

What makes the most sense to me is that they've been radio silent for much longer, and the Supervisor was just continuing to monitor an official government comms channel for bulletins as per his programming (possibly awaiting a specific all-clear code that was never transmitted), and the last message to go out over that old frequency before the Empire shut it off and switched it over to something new was Palpatine's declaration.

As for why specifying that connection at all; clearly it's just a convenient way of blowing Jod's cover. The show doesn't really have to elaborate on the details since all of the witherto's and whyfor's aren't really terribly relevant to the story. Indeed I rather appreciate how restrained the exposition has been on this show as a whole!

Yeah, with everything we saw it would probably make the most sense if The Supervisor was aware of what was going on in the outside galaxy, but the outside galaxy had still not been aware of At Attin for a very, very long time. Hell, just the Onyx Cinder and SM-33 seemed like they could have crashed a lot longer back than the fall of the Republic.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It dawned on me now that I think this is the first Disney Star Wars production we've gotten that is completely stand alone and didn't feature any appearances from characters from other productions.

Vane first appeared in Mandalorian season 3. He actually played a more prominent role there than he did here, which surprised me. In fact, I can't even remember if he survived the show.

Vane

Vane was a male[2] Kajain'sa'Nikto pirate who was a member of Gorian Shard's gang[1] as the second-in-command.[2] During the pirate siege on Nevarro, Vane deserted Shard to save his own skin. Vane was considered one of the most famous pirates in the galaxy, stories about Vane were shared by...

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[Scout101]

Eh, guess I just don’t get the point of this series. What story were they trying to tell? Didn’t really seem like it went anywhere or much happened

 

[Set Harth]

In fact, wasn't Vane prominently featured in early advertising for Skeleton Crew? Since he seemed to kind of conspicuously be the sole survivor of the pirates in The Mandalorian, I thought that he was being set up for a larger role.