Ships of the Line 2012

[The Wormhole]

I didn't see this being discussed anywhere on this forum yet, so I thought I'd post it: TrekMovie's preview of the 2012 Ships of the Line calendar. Some fine images there this year, my particular favourite is that awesome shot of an Ambassador class ship. What does everyone else think?

 

[timothy]

that looks so cool. what is that big ship on the back of the calander.
I all ways like ship of the line. are there any posters of the ships of the line?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Real nice cover.

 

[Tirius]

The Merian-class image (U.S.S. Planck) is my favorite. (That's the big image you're refering to, timothy.) It's always nice to see new ships from the novels. There's quite a few new Federation designs this year, the refit Ambassador is nice as well.

 

[Jono]

Disappointed about the lack of a DS9 image again. That's a nice shot of the Ambassador, but I preferred her older look.

What class is the Allegiance? I thought it was a Galaxy in the smaller pick but the bigger image showed it wasn't.

 

[Mage]

What class is the Allegiance? I thought it was a Galaxy in the smaller pick but the bigger image showed it wasn't.

Fan-design by Dak Phoenix, who is also credited on the image. One of the best fandesigns out there really.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzvwmFmfI0o

 

[Cybersnark]

The Merian-class image (U.S.S. Planck) is my favorite. (That's the big image you're refering to, timothy.)

Technically, the big image identifies it as the Planck-class, though the smaller image comparing it to the Ambassador-class does seem to identify it as Merian-class.

Looks a bit big, honestly. I pegged the Merian-class as being much smaller (crew complement in the 70s, as opposed to Voyager's 150-ish).

 

[JarodRussell]

I've already seen that image with the ship getting chased by the borg cube. And the cover image as well. Not too fond of the recycling going on there.

 

[Stevil2001]

What class is the Allegiance? I thought it was a Galaxy in the smaller pick but the bigger image showed it wasn't.

Fan-design by Dak Phoenix, who is also credited on the image. One of the best fandesigns out there really.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzvwmFmfI0o

Really? It looks like a goofy merging of a Galaxy and a Sovereign.

Love the cover image, and that F-type shuttle on a survey mission.

 

[Clawhammer]

The Merian-class image (U.S.S. Planck) is my favorite. (That's the big image you're refering to, timothy.)

Technically, the big image identifies it as the Planck-class, though the smaller image comparing it to the Ambassador-class does seem to identify it as Merian-class.

Looks a bit big, honestly. I pegged the Merian-class as being much smaller (crew complement in the 70s, as opposed to Voyager's 150-ish).

Check out Dougs blog this weekend for a build up and some dimensions. I developed it with a max crewsize of 80 in mind. I measured it today, 218 meters in total. (with the nacelles.)

It has around 12 decks that are full height & suitable for normal living/working etc.

 

[publiusr]

I like Dak's design myself--but that is just me. But like a lot of folks, I prefere the TMP era look.

 

[timothy]

The Merian-class image (U.S.S. Planck) is my favorite. (That's the big image you're refering to, timothy.) It's always nice to see new ships from the novels. There's quite a few new Federation designs this year, the refit Ambassador is nice as well.

thanks thats a cool ship. which books has it been in?

and when does this come out?

 

[David cgc]

And the cover image as well. Not too fond of the recycling going on there.

The cover isn't exactly recycled. It's a 3D-rendered remake of a painting done by Andrew Probert. It's much the same as how the first few calendars were full of adapted shots from the shows.

 

[JarodRussell]

And the cover image as well. Not too fond of the recycling going on there.

The cover isn't exactly recycled. It's a 3D-rendered remake of a painting done by Andrew Probert. It's much the same as how the first few calendars were full of adapted shots from the shows.

Splitting hairs. A CG version of the Mona Lisa would still be just that.

 

[Tirius]

The Merian-class image (U.S.S. Planck) is my favorite. (That's the big image you're refering to, timothy.) It's always nice to see new ships from the novels. There's quite a few new Federation designs this year, the refit Ambassador is nice as well.

thanks thats a cool ship. which books has it been in?

and when does this come out?

Planck is one of three ships of its class featured in the last three books of the Voyager series by Kirsten Beyer, most recently in Children of the Storm. It is described as a science vessel; its counterparts are named Curie and Hawking, and the class name is confirmed in the glossary found at the back of the aforementioned book.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Why does the Mona Lisa always come up in these kinds of discussions? Is it, like, the only painting that everyone thinks that everyone else knows and will agree is somehow incomparable and inviolable? Or is it just lack of imagination and lazily reaching for the most convenient cliche?

Andy Probert's painting is wonderful and he's a great artist - one of my favorites ever associated with Trek. That said, it's just possible that he might not agree that an homage to his work by a CG artist somehow disrespects what he did, even as Roddenberry recoiled once from the suggestion that in creating Star Trek he had somehow "painted the Mona Lisa."

(I'd be intrigued to see a CG recreation of the Mona Lisa, If It Were Done Well (TM 2003, Samuel T. Cogley).

 

[JarodRussell]

Why does the Mona Lisa always come up in these kinds of discussions? Is it, like, the only painting that everyone thinks that everyone else knows and will agree is somehow incomparable and inviolable? Or is it just lack of imagination and lazily reaching for the most convenient cliche?

Andy Probert's painting is wonderful and he's a great artist - one of my favorites ever associated with Trek. That said, it's just possible that he might not agree that an homage to his work by a CG artist somehow disrespects what he did, even as Roddenberry recoiled once from the suggestion that in creating Star Trek he had somehow "painted the Mona Lisa."

(I'd be intrigued to see a CG recreation of the Mona Lisa, If It Were Done Well (TM 2003, Samuel T. Cogley).

Oh geez. It's not about disrespecting his work (thanks for putting words in my mouth), it's about the lack of ideas in this calendar. I would have also complained about it had they re-used his actual painting as the cover. And yeah, da Vinci's Mona Lisa always comes up because it's clearly the most well known painting. Why does Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet always come up when it's about literature, or Beethoven's Ode to Joy when it's about music, or Kubrik's/Clarke's 2001 when it's about science fiction?

 

[timothy]

that's a science vessel wow looks like a fraggin dread naught class. I have yet to get to the voyager reluanch books yet.

 

[David cgc]

And the cover image as well. Not too fond of the recycling going on there.

The cover isn't exactly recycled. It's a 3D-rendered remake of a painting done by Andrew Probert. It's much the same as how the first few calendars were full of adapted shots from the shows.

Splitting hairs. A CG version of the Mona Lisa would still be just that.

I'm having Kind of Bloop flashbacks.

Anyway, I rather like seeing new takes on older material. It might've been more appropriate during an anniversary year, but there's nothing to be done for that.

 

[Christopher]

Splitting hairs. A CG version of the Mona Lisa would still be just that.

No, it wouldn't. It would be a different interpretation of the same subject. Technique is an important part of art. The medium is part of the message, so changing the medium changes the work into something distinct.