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Spoilers Secret Invasion grade and discussion

With the exceptions of WandaVision and Hawkeye, I don't care for any of the DisneyPlus shows that much.

Are we to believe that Fury owed his success at SHIELD solely to the Skrulls? This "deconstruction" sounds even worse than the revelation that Fury had lost his eye to a grumpy intergalactic cat.
Not if you believe Fury himself.
He certainly used them to get an edge in spywork.
I wouldn’t say he was useless without them, though.
 
Why even is this show a thing?

Disney+ shows mostly seem set up to introduce new characters and set up shit for the movies.

Does this do either?
Possibly, at least I doubt it's a coincidence that there is an upcoming Avengers movie titled Secret War.
 
Possibly, at least I doubt it's a coincidence that there is an upcoming Avengers movie titled Secret War.
Well, that's probably unrelated considering the source material and being so far off.

The only obvious setup is The Marvels and, as I already posted, Ali Selim said the only setup he needed to do was have Fury in a certain place. Whether he meant physically or state of mind is yet to be seen.
 
The cast are great but it's all a bit dull. Spy stuff can be incredibly tense, cross and double cross, bluff and counter bluff with the added bonus of shapeshifting, but this just isn't interesting at all. A huge waste of the talent at their disposal.

Agree with what people have said about the scene on the sub, the XO basically having to cajole the captain into launching, but for me the issue was the commodore.

1. If he's a Skrull why was her protective of the real commodore's son? I mean if Gravick has his way all humans gonna die right?

2. So the guy's a senior officer in the Royal Navy and his password is...his son's name :cardie: there's kindergarten level writing going on in places here!

Plus points. Fury and Talos are great together, and Collie lights up the room whenever she's around, which sadly isn't often enough. I love Emilia Clarke but hoping she ain't dead and that she gets something more interesting to do.
 
It actually makes Nick Fury a better spymaster because it shows that Nick was able to leverage unconventional assets.

Which is what Nick Fury does (see: The Avengers).

Nick Fury? Pawn of Hydra for 99 percent of his career?

This shit was off the books, so we are supposed to believe that Hydra did not know.

Bawh!

it would be so much more interesting to write Hydra's plans for the Skrulls into Secret Invasion.

Yes. I heard them mention Alexander Pierce.
 
The cast are great but it's all a bit dull. Spy stuff can be incredibly tense, cross and double cross, bluff and counter bluff with the added bonus of shapeshifting, but this just isn't interesting at all. A huge waste of the talent at their disposal.

Agree with what people have said about the scene on the sub, the XO basically having to cajole the captain into launching, but for me the issue was the commodore.

1. If he's a Skrull why was her protective of the real commodore's son? I mean if Gravick has his way all humans gonna die right?

2. So the guy's a senior officer in the Royal Navy and his password is...his son's name :cardie: there's kindergarten level writing going on in places here!

Plus points. Fury and Talos are great together, and Collie lights up the room whenever she's around, which sadly isn't often enough. I love Emilia Clarke but hoping she ain't dead and that she gets something more interesting to do.

What do you mean by "more interesting things to do"?
 
Ok, I think Secret Invasion is ok. Nothing special. But I really don't get the "It's not adding new characters or furthering the MCU! What's the point?!" criticism. Shows are allowed to exist just to be their own shows, without being a stepping stone in the Cinematic Universe.
 
Show’s job is probably to get Fury out of his slump. So that he’s back as himself for the Marvels movie
 
A Marvel spy thriller would seem like a slam dunk, but we're coming off the heels of Black Widow and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, not Captain America: The Winter Soldier. Also, everyone in this show sucks at being a spy.
 
Agree with what people have said about the scene on the sub, the XO basically having to cajole the captain into launching, but for me the issue was the commodore.
Unless I missed something (like the blink-and-miss-it glance at the dossier), I'm pretty sure the Skrull was the weapons officer and not the XO. Either way, that conversation shouldn't be happening in the open like that. Shatters confidence in the chain of command.

2. So the guy's a senior officer in the Royal Navy and his password is...his son's name :cardie: there's kindergarten level writing going on in places here!
Damn, I didn't even notice that. Probably was too distracted by the sub stuff. That is pretty lame, too.
 
I assume they are making Super Skrulls but don’t you need the Fantastic Four for that?
Yeah when I saw that, I was hoping whatever happens will eventually lead to the Super Skrull showing up in the upcoming MCU Fantastic Four feature film, but we'll see. (I'd love to see the Super Skrull hypnotized to believe he's a cow in a pasture at the end of that film too. ;))
 
So the guy's a senior officer in the Royal Navy and his password is...his son's name :cardie: there's kindergarten level writing going on in places here!
I remember thinking during the scene when G'iah accesses the real Commodore's memories which seemed to be fixated on his son "oh shit, the codeword better not be his son's name." And then when it was indeed revealed to be that I said "ah, shit!"
I fully admit that I'd just watch Talos and Fury bickering for 6 episodes. :lol:
"Are you out of your reptilian-ass mind?" is probably one of my favorite one-liners from this show.
 
I remember thinking during the scene when G'iah accesses the real Commodore's memories which seemed to be fixated on his son "oh shit, the codeword better not be his son's name." And then when it was indeed revealed to be that I said "ah, shit!"
I wish that was less believable, but I've worked tech support.
 
This is why I used my own name for all my passwords. That way, when anyone scans by brain for it, they can never find it because my brain is full of memories of it!
 
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