I blame Venom.
Spoilers Season 3 Comic-Con reveals
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I blame Venom.
What if this is the future of the Kelvin Universe. The Discovery we saw in short treks was the one from that universe. Maybe the cold war went differently for them. A funny reveil would be if Admiral Archer's dog finally arrived. The audience would instantly know where we are. Jason
I know. What I am saying is they might have crossed over when coming to the future. Jason
Georgiou might be wearing an admiral's badge. It's mostly off screen, but the top is curved, and too wide to be a Delta badge.
Either way she has the full gold shoulders.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGNvzRdWwAEAIk-?format=jpg
Either way she has the full gold shoulders.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGNvzRdWwAEAIk-?format=jpg
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I think no one expected the Federation to be still well and thriving. Then the Discovery's crew would be backwards primitives with ancient technology and TPTB obviously rather like to turn them into messiahs.
The newest trailer where that one guy has waited for ages for them and what the producers said recently confirms this.
https://trekmovie.com/2019/10/06/st...it-to-trill-and-more-spore-drive-in-season-3/
So despite all this long time the Discovery likely will still be one of the most advanced ships around. A bit unrealistic that no one else came up with a fast travel method before. I mean Khan in the Kelvinverse could beam across half the galaxy already and the Borg were also already super fast with their transwarp hundreds of years before. Really no one else thought of making a spore drive? Or came up with an artificial wormhole jumping method? Or something else?
They definitely go the messiahs route. They will be the ones who will make the Federation great again with setting an example and fighting the good fight.
The newest trailer where that one guy has waited for ages for them and what the producers said recently confirms this.
https://trekmovie.com/2019/10/06/st...it-to-trill-and-more-spore-drive-in-season-3/
So despite all this long time the Discovery likely will still be one of the most advanced ships around. A bit unrealistic that no one else came up with a fast travel method before. I mean Khan in the Kelvinverse could beam across half the galaxy already and the Borg were also already super fast with their transwarp hundreds of years before. Really no one else thought of making a spore drive? Or came up with an artificial wormhole jumping method? Or something else?
They definitely go the messiahs route. They will be the ones who will make the Federation great again with setting an example and fighting the good fight.
Wormholes take an insane amount of energy to create, even by Star Trek standards. I can see that taking a lot longer than mere centuries to master.
Transwarp might make it possible so that they can travel across the galaxy fast, but the distance to other galaxies would still take a while. If the Spore Drive were perfected, it would still be better for intergalactic travel than Transwarp. Instantaneous beats out "really fast" no matter what.
The Spore Drive itself is based on the Mycellial Network that Stamets could navigate with Tartigrade DNA. If genetic engineering is still illegal within the Federation, then they can't have a Spore Drive without Stamets no matter what century it is.
If the Federation repressed knowledge of the Spore Drive, then the other empires won't bother to duplicate it. And if they don't think to create a Mycellial Network on their own, they're not going to develop an idea they don't have. They can keep guessing how to make instantaneous travel possible, but still keep getting it wrong. If I were running a major empire, I'd be more interested in the Iconian Gateway.
But the only way duplicating the Iconian Gateway works is if you not only master but also perfect wormhole technology which, like I said earlier in my post, might take a lot more than just centuries.
So all the major powers are stuck coming up with how to travel really fast. And nothing more. Eventually, they can only expend so much power and only become so ingenious when they can't go any further with the technology they have. They can't make it better after a certain point, so they have to make it something else. Which still might not be instantaneous.
Everything on the Discovery is probably obsolete except for the Spore Drive, but that's enough to make it a prized ship. Just upgrade the rest of the technology inside of the ship to current standards and you're all set. Gut everything except the Spore Drive, and still keep the ship looking the same but with a whole new computer system...
... which I'd argue is what Zora is, if they find a way to make "Calypso" make sense.
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Georgiou might be wearing an admiral's badge. It's mostly off screen, but the top is curved, and too wide to be a Delta badge.
Either way she has the full gold shoulders.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGNvzRdWwAEAIk-?format=jpg
Probably gave herself a promotion. Hey, at least we have a psycho admiral again.
Unlikely.
The point of divergence between the two timelines is 2233, which is 24 years before DSC takes place.
So there's no reason to think that, when Discovery makes its jump into the future, it would end up in any timeline other than the one where it started.
One more title to add to her lengthy laundry list of titles.
Plus it was the spore drive that took them to the MU, though there are other ways.
But it is fiction. If they like the idea they just got to write it. The timey wimey nature of Temporal Cold War gives them something to work with. I am kind of curious to much they use time travel. Georgiou has to get home for her show but if she does she can change the future but that would make everthing done this season. If is the Kelvinverse though it wouldn't matter if she returned to her time. Also Burnham's mom is out their and maybe another version of the crew from the other Discovery. Also at somepoint someone will have to bring up time crystals. Jason
Yeah, funny how THE Lead character in a series ends up being the center of the show, eh?They just can't resist making Michael Burnham the center of the entire universe.
Yeah, funny how THE Lead character in a series ends up being the center of the show, eh?
You’re right. It probably wouldn’t be an issue with a better written lead character.
I know...I was just as surprised as you were.Yeah, funny how THE Lead character in a series ends up being the center of the show, eh?
Yeah we're SO LUCKY that GR came up with a WHOLLY NEW AND ORIGINNAL CONCEPT in 1964 (FYI - that's te year he first pitched Star Trek) that WASN'T based on a 1956 feature film called "Forbidden Planet"...oh, wait...
I wonder who this character is, they show up in several shots of the trailer, including a shot in the Symbiont pool. they don't have spots though, so they're not a trill.
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1181357917783695360
https://twitter.com/TrekCore/status/1181357917783695360
Looks like the nonbinary character who was promised.
I think the easiest way to solve this is this--Discovery's time travel to the future created a "Yesterday's Enterprise" situation. However, the situation in Yesterday's Enterprise was so bad that they eagerly sent the Enterprise-C back in time to erase their own universe.
Everyone in the future (including a Department of Temporal Investigations if there is one) may actively be preventing Discovery from returning to the 23rd century because they know it will erase their own timeline. Although one wonders why they couldn't send them back via red matter and just create an alternate timeline (like Nero did in Star Trek 2009)
