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Season 2 an overall improvement?
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Hey, people love beige sets and color coded uniforms.
"Distant Origin" is my favorite. A really outrageous story idea that was made believably.
Very much so.
I think roughly 40% of any Trek series is decent enough to watch.
I wouldn't watch a series that I thought was 40% watchable. That means more often than not you're expecting a bad experience. To voluntarily put yourself through that sounds counterproductive to being entertained. If entertainment is why you want to watch something, anything, in the first place.
People need to break themselves of the habit of watching Star Trek just because it's Star Trek. People should watch what they like.
"I'm willing to sit through a lot to get to the good stuff!" is something I've heard before. I have a solution to that: wait until the series or season is over, go with the opinions you trust or you think are closest to yours, and then just watch those episodes. "But I'll be lost!" That's why each episode has recaps. You're brought up the speed. And we live in the age of where you can look up anything you need to online. No other Star Trek series has aired in the age of Wikipedia or Social Media.
People need to break themselves of the habit of watching Star Trek just because it's Star Trek. People should watch what they like.
"I'm willing to sit through a lot to get to the good stuff!" is something I've heard before. I have a solution to that: wait until the series or season is over, go with the opinions you trust or you think are closest to yours, and then just watch those episodes. "But I'll be lost!" That's why each episode has recaps. You're brought up the speed. And we live in the age of where you can look up anything you need to online. No other Star Trek series has aired in the age of Wikipedia or Social Media.
IMHO, Star Trek series vary between 90% watchable and maybe 20%, and at various times I gave up for a while on watching each post TOS series if and when it got better, but that's because I could, as missing eps hardly mattered with the big red reset button after every 45 minutes. That being said, sure, you can use cliff's notes to view seasons of Disco like a novel that you only want to read certain chapters of, but IMHO, you miss out on the non-summary callbacks. As far as i can tell each season of Disco will be decent overall, with some ups and downs, but based on reactions, some of those downs for certain people are ups of others. It a lot harder for the series, unlike any other than DS9 during its best years, perhaps to skip a thing. I mean, people go on and on about relationship responses appearing unearned, and they've watched the show, or so they say. If, for instance, that's your thing, then wikipedia isn't going to cut it.
IMHO, Disco, like many shows these days , is something that requires one go all in, because I don't think you can enjoy the highs a fraction as much by relying on summaries to get the whole picture and the intended impact. And of course, depending on what you think you should be watching, that will leave you anywhere between utterly engrossed to screaming at your screen, if fandom is any indication.
Tough call, really, because there is just so much to watch overall, and so little time, and Disco pulled a wringer out of the gate, because you really have to go all the way to Context is for Kings to get an real idea of what the show was going to be last year. And as i could see, waiting that long wasn't for everyone. But for me, even the opening two parter was good enough for me to keep going, but honestly, I don't think one can get a real handle on the Burnham/Empress relationship without having watched Michael and Prime Georgiou interact.
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No wonder the people who don't like Discovery prefer episodic over serialized. They feel they can't skip episodes if they want to watch. If I were them, I'd just cut ties. Period. Once I stopped watching VOY, after five seasons, it was much easier for me to drop ENT after six episodes.
It's like they don't like the show but can't stand to let go of it either. Sounds like a sucky situation.
If they don't like the show because of the show itself, that's fair, because at least they're judging the show on its own merits or demerits. If they don't like the show because they can't stop comparing it to other Star Trek, then that's not fair, because that has more to do with them as a viewer than what's actually on screen.
Some people need to realize and accept not everyone has the same perspective. Star Trek shouldn't be forced to conform to their preferences and their preferences only. And they don't need to throw a huge fit and antagonize everyone whenever it doesn't go their way. Learning when it's time to call it a day or how to be able to go quietly into the night has some advantages.
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Its too bad you gave up DS9 before season 3, as that is where the show really kicked it up. If you do find you have the time I's recommend watching the first few eps of S3. Much of the season is above average with only a few stinkers, IMHO and it gets better from there.
For me it isn't about episodic or serialized, I'm just waiting for Discovery to do something that grabs me.
I've heard that, and I WANT to, but season 2 is a STRUGGLE to get through.
Then just watch ep 5, 14, 22, 23, 25, and 26 and maybe 19 if you are nostalgic for the Klingons from TOS. You won't have missed anything particularly important or meaningful by skipping the rest, IMO.
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In an episode written by David A. Goodman, co-showrunner of The Orville. Personally, I'm digging them both. And while they each started off a little rough, they both became consitently good way quicker than TNG, DS9 and ENT did.
Then again, I'm old school. I'm used to my genre series being mostly shit until sometime halfway into Season 2/early Season 3. With 22+ episode seasons to slog through to get to the good stuff (TNG, DS9, ENT, Buffy, Angel, Xena, Superman: TAS, Farscape, Stargate SG-1, Supernatural, hell even The X-Files). Discovery and Orville being this good this early (less than 20 episodes in) is an unrecognized blessing.
I always felt DS9 was good from the start but only hit its stride with the second season as the writers got a stronger handle on the characters. It’s TNG, ENT, and DIS that had mixed beginnings for me, while VOY never quite found its own groove, though it’s most consistent season was the fourth.
VOY's best episode was The Caretaker, it went downhill pretty fast from there
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