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Re-Watching DS9

Making some good headway into my re-watch of Babylon 5. Definitely more I'm picking up this time around.

I took a break to do a re-write of my review of "Fascination". I didn't change my opinion, but I made it more into my standard format and put my original reaction into Spoiler Code.
"FASCINATION" gets a 3? Damn, that's harsh. I've always put that as a 6. It's such a fun episode and directed really well. (Best shots of the Promenade in the series.)

And thinking back, I actually hold "MERIDIAN" at a 5, not a 6... really the Quark story and Frakes directing it help elevate it. (And being Jeffrey Combs' introduction to the franchise.) Otherwise, than would have been a 4.
 
In "Born to the Purple", Londo is telling a woman, "What do you want? A washed-up old Republican, dreaming of better days?" Definitely a double-meaning there if I ever saw one. I'm guessing JMS voted for Clinton. ;)

While we're at it, I think Kramer from Seinfeld has perfect Centauri hair! I can't believe I didn't think of this before now!
 
I found that Babylon 5's first season does work better on a second watch because you know the characters and world a bit better. It's like watching DS9 season one after TNG and having the advantage of knowing what a Cardassian is and who the Duras sisters are.
 
I've wondered whether I would have survived watching B5 S1 if I hadn't gotten hooked on the show because of later events first.

The first time I did a full viewing of it, even knowing what was to come, it was still painful at times.
 
I'm having the opposite reaction. I'm very much thinking, "Damnit! What the Hell was wrong with me? I should've watched this when I was 14!"

Better late than never. Although, now cue someone who'll say, "Oh! You have no idea! If only you knew what's coming!" I'm like the equivalent of Target Audience watching TNG Season 1. "This season is good! Where are the bad episodes?"
 
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I'm having the opposite reaction. I'm very much thinking, "Damnit! What the Hell was wrong with me? I should've watched this when I was 14!"

Better late than never. Although, now cue someone who'll say, "Oh! You have no idea! If only you knew what's coming!" I'm like the equivalent of Target Audience watching TNG Season 1. "This season is good! Where are the bad episodes?"
You've definitely been much more charitable than I'd be so far.
 
You've definitely been much more charitable than I'd be so far.
Usually, but not always. Just now, I didn't bother to finish re-watching "Infection". I felt like I've seen enough and stopped it before the end. For the first 15 minutes, it seemed like it would be an okay episode... but then came the rest of it, and when it descended, it descended fast. I give it a 4.

I can now very confidently say I think "Infection" is the worst episode of the season.

After I get through S1E5 of B5 again, I'm going to break this up a little and put on "Heart of Stone".
 
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I've wondered whether I would have survived watching B5 S1 if I hadn't gotten hooked on the show because of later events first.

The first time I did a full viewing of it, even knowing what was to come, it was still painful at times.

I actually remember struggling through B5 Season 1 big time, I really liked Sinclair (he reminded me a bit of Avery Brooks in the way he went about it) and but most of the other characters just seemed kind of bland to me. Garibaldi seemed more like a bully and annoying wise guy too, I thought the two main actors lacked chemistry. Ivanov grew on me but at first I didn't like the actress cause for some reason she just scream "I'M AN IMPORTANT ACTRESS" at me in a bad way.
 
Usually, but not always. Just now, I didn't bother to finish re-watching "Infection". I felt like I've seen enough and stopped it before the end. For the first 15 minutes, it seemed like it would be an okay episode... but then came the rest of it, and when it descended, it descended fast. I give it a 4.

I can now very confidently say I think "Infection" is the worst episode of the season.

After I get through S1E5 of B5 again, I'm going to break this up a little and put on "Heart of Stone".
"INFECTION" was the first filmed episode of the season. So at least it went upward.
 
I actually remember struggling through B5 Season 1 big time, I really liked Sinclair (he reminded me a bit of Avery Brooks in the way he went about it) and but most of the other characters just seemed kind of bland to me. Garibaldi seemed more like a bully and annoying wise guy too, I thought the two main actors lacked chemistry. Ivanov grew on me but at first I didn't like the actress cause for some reason she just scream "I'M AN IMPORTANT ACTRESS" at me in a bad way.
When I showed the series to a friend for the first time (also my first time watching S1 in its entirety), I asked that if she loathed S1 that she give it a few episodes into S2 before declaring she wanted to move onto something else.
 
The way this is being hyped up, I'll be disappointed if I don't give the first five episodes of Season 2 all 9s and 10s. You're all setting my expectations pretty high! :p
 
I don't want to give you even a hint of a spoiler, but you should probably set your expectations to maybe one grade above season 1. Episodes that would've been 4s in season 1 are 5s in season 2, 6s become 7s, and so on. The season's not the best, it's just better. At least, that's what other people have thought.
 
I don't think season 2 is better than season 1, just a little more polished. Each season builds on the last and doesn't really stand alone. The last stretch of episodes in season 2 are pretty good because of the world building done in the first 1½ seasons. Not a spoiler, just my subjective opinion.
 
I've been watching a few summaries of the show and reviews. Babylon 5 puts emotions and feelings into me that other shows don't.

I'm not sure what it is but it's this strange feeling of dread, happiness, sadness. Really strange. I can't describe it properly. It's this feeling that it's kind of "real".
 
I really hate my thoroughness sometimes. I really want to be like "Fuck it! I'm putting on Season 2!" But no, I'm getting new insights the second time around with Season 1, I've changed some of my ratings now that I have a better idea of what B5 at its best looks like, and I want to do the Season Review properly. So, yeah, continuing on with the binge. Though not right at the moment because I'm heading out somewhere.
 
"Heart of Stone"
Episode 3 Season 14. I guess you could call this the Pi Episode!

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This is another one of those instances where I like the B-Plot better than the A-Plot. Which is not a knock on the A-Plot. What they both have in common is getting down to characters' motivations and asking, "Why?"

The A-Plot: The Female Shapeshifter impersonates Kira (I'd forgotten about this) and pretends to be trapped in a growing crystalline structure that threatens to bury her inside as it grows. Odo won't leave, "Kira" asks why and Odo says it's because he loves her.

Now, at this point, I'm wondering "What a minute... I thought Kira didn't know about this until later." Then I found it was really the Female Shapeshifter and then it made sense. I remembered she was involved with the story somehow, but I didn't remember exactly how. For some reason, less of this season ended up sticking to my long-term memory.

At the end, when Odo reunites with the real Kira, Odo says the Female Shapeshifter said something he knew the real Kira would never say. Then doesn't say what it was. So, Kira doesn't get a chance to confirm or deny if she loves him. But putting that thought in ours is basically just screaming, "This is set-up for what we want to do later!" And another reason to have written out Bariel.

This is also the first time DS9 uses a cave setting with only two characters where there's nothing to do but talk about their lives and what motivates them. We also find out the Female Shapeshifter wants to take way any reason Odo might have for not being with them. I think she made a mistake here because if anything, I think revealing that would make Odo even more resistant to returning to the Great Link.

The B-Plot: Earlier in the season, they re-framed Jake's character now that he's older. In this episode, they did the same with Nog. The old days of Jake and Nog being kids and getting into hi-jinks are over. Nog wants to join Starfleet Academy. Sisko can't believe it, Jake tells his father it was a joke, then Nog insists it isn't, Sisko gives Nog a job to prove he's serious, and then plays hard ball to get the truth out of Nog. And it's something very genuine: He doesn't want to be like his father. He wants to live for more than to not be underneath Quark's thumb and never living to see his potential like Rom.

I admire that. I admire him wanting to pursue something other than what Ferengi society wants him to do. I had to deal with that crap from my own father. "Why don't you get a job like this?" "Why don't you cut your hair?" "Why don't you do this?" "Why don't you do that?" "Your field is so competitive." So, I get Nog wanting to break off to forge his own path and defy expectations. Quark wants to forbid it. When Rom stands up to Quark and says he's Nog's father, Quark tells Rom to tell him "No" and instead Rom encourages Nog to do his best in Starfleet.

At the beginning of the series, as it was airing, if someone asked me if Jake or Nog would've joined Starfleet, I would've said Jake. I think it's what all of us would've said, not knowing what's ahead. But nope. Jake doesn't want to join Starfleet and Nog, who started off as a juvenile delinquent, does. Not only did they defy expectations, but they sent a message that anyone can do better with their lives if they want to, and if they apply themselves.

Summing Up: I think the A-Plot sets up what's going on inside of Odo's head rather than anything immediately apparent to the other characters. Meanwhile the B-Plot sets up something that happens not just in someone's head. Nog's begun his path towards Starfleet Academy, which changes everyone's perceptions about him. Weighing everything, I give this episode an 8.

One More Thing:
At one point, the Female Shapeshifter reminds Odo that no Changeling has ever harmed another. Odo doesn't care. Nothing happens to the Female Shapeshifter, but that's definitely foreshadowing in the middle of the season about what happens at the end of the season, when Odo finally does kill another Changeling.

Continuing on with the B5 S1 re-watch binge. Just had to take a break from it. The next time I take a break; it's going to be a VOY episode in the VOY Forum.
 
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"HEART OF STONE" is very much like "MERIDIAN"... the B story is much stronger than the A story. I give this a 7, only because the A plot was rather meh.

I absolutely loved Nog's story, and his scene explaining why he wants to be in Starfleet is one of the two very best scenes of Nog. (The other being his talk with Vic at the end about why he is staying in the holosuite in "IT'S ONLY A PAPER MOON".)

Nog is certainly a shining example of how to do character growth in a series. And he wasn't even a lead actor.
 
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