Poor Jeri Ryan

[exodus]

You're welcome.

Actually I'm taken aback when I notice that even fans of KM do not realize what the awful truth is.
As long as I used to be a die-hard KM fan, I always wanted to know the truth anyway. However, can you imagine my nasty surprise when I've found out the truth of the truth after many years of worship?? Boy, that was more than horrible but I had no chance than dealing with it and bearing the consequences - which were (for me) not being a Kate Mulgrew fan any longer. I still appreciate her as an actress but not as a person any more (thanks to herself). And I'm not talking about her behavior towards Jeri Ryan which may have changed my mind...this was absolutely disgusting without any doubt even though KM can be much more beastly, believe me.

I feel just as you do.
I now find KM very catty.

 

[KimMH]

As a fan of both that makes me feel badly - I like to imagine TrekAlums all getting together in Spacefleetly love . . *sighs*

 

[exodus]

As a fan of both that makes me feel badly - I like to imagine TrekAlums all getting together in Spacefleetly love . . *sighs*

I think it should remind us that these actors are people too and that we shouldn't put them on a pedestal by assuming they're professional all the time.

 

[teya]

I haven't been able to find a con transcript yet, but apparently at the last Creation con Kate did, she said she "overreacted" to Jeri's addition to the cast and was sorry for that.

Now, given that fans have been saying for years that she did nothing wrong, that coworkers don't have to get along and not getting along doesn't mean she was nasty about it... well, why would she apologize?

There's working together and leaving it at that, and there's being mean.

Personally, I think that when your younger costar passes out on set because the neck on her Borg costume is blocking blood flow to her brain (and thus, threatening her *life*) to sniff that wardrobe and makeup is part of the job and professionals don't complain is bad enough. To then turn around and take pride in the fact that you yourself have complained about the hair and the padded bra is sheer hypocrisy--and there is nothing that irritates me more than a hypocrite.

 

[KimMH]

It would make me like her better for it if she has apologized.

 

[exodus]

^^I'd feel better about it if it was directly to Ryan.

Saying it to a crowd of fans means very little.
She didn't insult us, she insulted a co-worker for just being hired to do a job.

 

[KimMH]

^^I'd feel better about it if it was directly to Ryan.

Saying it to a crowd of fans means very little.

It does seem cowardly. Hopefully she made amends with Jeri sooner than that.

 

[teya]

It would make me like her better for it if she has apologized.

Well, apparently she said something to fans. I highly doubt she called Jeri personally and said anything, but then I highly doubt Jeri much cares.

A friend of mine saw the difference between how the two women handled it when she took a photo of the two to conventions to be signed. She got Kate first. Kate looked at it, looked at my friend and said, "You're sure you don't want a different picture? Must I?"

Months later Jeri looked at it and said, "Which season was this? I'm always amazed by photos fans find!"

Jeri was an army brat. She was used to moving around and being the new kid in town. She seems to let bullshit slide off.

At least in public.

 

[KimMH]

Posters here mostly report Jeri is very gracious at the cons. I'd so love to go to one. I'd be too awed to ask either of them about their relationship - I'd probably stutter or pass out.

 

[Fish1941]

I think it should remind us that these actors are people too and that we shouldn't put them on a pedestal by assuming they're professional all the time.

I hate to say this, but I think that you're wasting your breath. The average fan is incapable of realizing that celebrities are also humans with flaws. For some reason, they insist upon trying to put celebrities on pedestals. They'll deny that they would ever do such a thing . . . but they continue to do it.


As for Kate Mulgrew, she is not the only cast member who harbors such feelings about Jeri Ryan. Most of them resented Ms. Ryan's presence on the show for years. It's not really her fault, but what can I say? I'm sure that many of us are equally capable of being just as catty or resentful.

 

[AuntKate]

I'm a Janeway fan and a Seven fan. I could care less if Mulgrew and Ryan "bonded" or if they are on speaking terms today, and I am only mildly interested in their private lives and careers. The characters sizzled on screen, and that is all that really matters to me.

I really don't understand this "Jeri is better than Kate" slant, or the "Kate was just misunderstood" position. There are no real answers to who is "more culpable" in their interactions. What happened on the set between the actors is water under the bridge and inconsequential today. To expect anyone, especially actors, to behave in a non-egotistical way is to set yourself up for disappointment.

They were well paid for whatever they went through--whether it was costumes, long hours, poor use of their character, or anything else.

I think it is high time to get over it.

 

[Thestral]

As for Kate Mulgrew, she is not the only cast member who harbors such feelings about Jeri Ryan. Most of them resented Ms. Ryan's presence on the show for years.

O RLY? And I'm sure you can back this up, of course.

No really, take your time.

 

[Lynx]

Why "poor Jeri Ryan"?

She got a lot of publicity, made a lot of money and have had some success after Voyager too.

OK, she didn't get along with Mulgrew (who was annoyed over the treatment of a good friend and probably unhappy with being shoved aside as the star of the show) but what does that matter. Ryan wasn't fired for no reason or mistreated in any way.

 

[exodus]

Why "poor Jeri Ryan"?

She got a lot of publicity, made a lot of money and have had some success after Voyager too.

OK, she didn't get along with Mulgrew (who was annoyed over the treatment of a good friend and probably unhappy with being shoved aside as the star of the show) but what does that matter. Ryan wasn't fired for no reason or mistreated in any way.

Feelings of animosity directed at a co-worker for no reason of their own is mistreatment. Ryan did nothing personal to Mulgrew, if it wasn't Jeri Ryan she would have been nasty to whomever that hired for the part.

AuntKate, so how much money does it cost to endure being treated like shit on a daily bases?

 

[Shazam!]

 

[AuntKate]

Why "poor Jeri Ryan"?

She got a lot of publicity, made a lot of money and have had some success after Voyager too.

OK, she didn't get along with Mulgrew (who was annoyed over the treatment of a good friend and probably unhappy with being shoved aside as the star of the show) but what does that matter. Ryan wasn't fired for no reason or mistreated in any way.

Feelings of animosity directed at a co-worker for no reason of their own is mistreatment. Ryan did nothing personal to Mulgrew, if it wasn't Jeri Ryan she would have been nasty to whomever that hired for the part.

AuntKate, so how much money does it cost to endure being treated like shit on a daily bases?

You know, I think I could put up with a lot for what Jeri was probably being paid.

 

[exodus]

Why "poor Jeri Ryan"?

She got a lot of publicity, made a lot of money and have had some success after Voyager too.

OK, she didn't get along with Mulgrew (who was annoyed over the treatment of a good friend and probably unhappy with being shoved aside as the star of the show) but what does that matter. Ryan wasn't fired for no reason or mistreated in any way.

Feelings of animosity directed at a co-worker for no reason of their own is mistreatment. Ryan did nothing personal to Mulgrew, if it wasn't Jeri Ryan she would have been nasty to whomever that hired for the part.

AuntKate, so how much money does it cost to endure being treated like shit on a daily bases?

You know, I think I could put up with a lot for what Jeri was probably being paid.

How much was that?

 

[AuntKate]

Feelings of animosity directed at a co-worker for no reason of their own is mistreatment. Ryan did nothing personal to Mulgrew, if it wasn't Jeri Ryan she would have been nasty to whomever that hired for the part.

AuntKate, so how much money does it cost to endure being treated like shit on a daily bases?

You know, I think I could put up with a lot for what Jeri was probably being paid.

How much was that?

Who knows. However, I have looked on sites that provide an "average" salary for actors, and I have seen that new or unknown actors (as Jeri would have been at that time) receive anywhere from $25,000 to $40,000 PER EPISODE. I'm guessing she probably had a decent agent to get her "scale" in Hollywood. I'd put up with a lot for that kind of money, and I think lots of people would. At 26 episodes per season, you're looking at a range of $650,000 to $1,040,000. Not bad.

 

[Lynx]

Why "poor Jeri Ryan"?

She got a lot of publicity, made a lot of money and have had some success after Voyager too.

OK, she didn't get along with Mulgrew (who was annoyed over the treatment of a good friend and probably unhappy with being shoved aside as the star of the show) but what does that matter. Ryan wasn't fired for no reason or mistreated in any way.

Feelings of animosity directed at a co-worker for no reason of their own is mistreatment. Ryan did nothing personal to Mulgrew, if it wasn't Jeri Ryan she would have been nasty to whomever that hired for the part.

AuntKate, so how much money does it cost to endure being treated like shit on a daily bases?

Those in charge are to blame for what animosity which might have been. The whole thing was handled very badly.

If my boss fired my best friend, hired a newcomer who would be praised as "the savior of he company" and then gave my job to the newcomer, reducing me to only an asistant to the same newcomer, I would be very annoyed and would probably show my dislike for the situation in some way.

 

[AuntKate]

There is so much animosity in this picture . . . NOT! Thanks for sharing.