I certainly would have preferred more of MK, than more of Alison...
Orphan Black Season 5 - The Final Trip
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I think I'm at the point where if one of the core clones does die, I wouldn't mind if it's Alison. The only thing that gives me pause is Oscar and Jemma, who would lose thier mother. Still, Alison's story feels more done than anyone else at the moment.
In S1, Kira seemed to have something unnatural in her.
And was hit by a car and healed pretty quickly. Hoping this storyline gives us a good answer as to why.
There's that too, like Helena's bebby that healed from the puncture.
I rewatched the episode tonight and before I thought MK's death was meaningless. Now after thinking about it and watching it a second time, I wonder if MK was sending Kira a message. Before she died she was talking about how there was no data on Westmoorland and Cosima even said the answers lie with him. What if MK subconsciously told Kira to find out all she could about him, while also finding out about herself. MK has always seemed to have Kira's best interest in mind so maybe her sacrificing herself saved Kira in a way, especially by not running anymore.
I actually did like the episode a lot more after the second time around. Still didn't like Sarah's almost forcing Kira into the van though.
I actually did like the episode a lot more after the second time around. Still didn't like Sarah's almost forcing Kira into the van though.
We got our first "Holy Crap" episode of the season and it was an Alison episode no less. This episode had all the elements I loved about Season 4, the flashbacks, the realizations, and the holy crap moment that was Alison meeting Rachel for the first time and turning the tables on her. I thought I was done with Alison because a lot of her episodes tend to be of the comic relief veriety, but this was an amazing episode of the series, and whats better is it felt like a final season episode.
One of the things I loved about season 4 was the idea that the series was coming full circle, and it felt like that was what happened here with Alison. We see Flashbacks of her drug abuse while still being a contributor to Baily Downs and I loved that first meeting between her and Cosima. I almost wish it was a little longer, but it felt so true to who Alison was as a character. I also loved seeing Angsley again, and as someone who watched the entire series before season 5 started, this episode had an "Arrow" moment for me, meaning the current season rewarding the person who binged watched the series before said moment. I didn't think I wanted to see the Angsley death brought back up, but it was used perfectly here, making Alison realize what kind of person she had become and why she is deciding to go away for a while.
As for that scene with Rachel, that is right up there with the Duko death scene and the bridge scene last season. This was Alison finally being very useful and considering they had never met before, this was everything I wanted that scene to be. Talking about the series coming full circle, I think if I rewatch this series again in a year or two and see this episode maybe a couple weeks after season the episode where Leekie was actually killed, the powerfulness of that scene might strengthen.
I said on Facebook that clone club needed a victory of some kind this week. I say they got one, and that's the kind of episode I'm hoping for every week from here on out. No, not the feeling of getting a victory every week, but the feeling of the series coming to an end and things coming full circle, and wrapping up. If we don't see Alison again this season, I think I'm ok with that because this episode did an amazing job wrapping up her story.
One of the things I loved about season 4 was the idea that the series was coming full circle, and it felt like that was what happened here with Alison. We see Flashbacks of her drug abuse while still being a contributor to Baily Downs and I loved that first meeting between her and Cosima. I almost wish it was a little longer, but it felt so true to who Alison was as a character. I also loved seeing Angsley again, and as someone who watched the entire series before season 5 started, this episode had an "Arrow" moment for me, meaning the current season rewarding the person who binged watched the series before said moment. I didn't think I wanted to see the Angsley death brought back up, but it was used perfectly here, making Alison realize what kind of person she had become and why she is deciding to go away for a while.
As for that scene with Rachel, that is right up there with the Duko death scene and the bridge scene last season. This was Alison finally being very useful and considering they had never met before, this was everything I wanted that scene to be. Talking about the series coming full circle, I think if I rewatch this series again in a year or two and see this episode maybe a couple weeks after season the episode where Leekie was actually killed, the powerfulness of that scene might strengthen.
I said on Facebook that clone club needed a victory of some kind this week. I say they got one, and that's the kind of episode I'm hoping for every week from here on out. No, not the feeling of getting a victory every week, but the feeling of the series coming to an end and things coming full circle, and wrapping up. If we don't see Alison again this season, I think I'm ok with that because this episode did an amazing job wrapping up her story.
When they said this season was "The FInal Trip" -- holy Double Entrendre's Batman!
I was really worried Donny would die in this episode...relieved it was temporary.
Very well done...
One random thought...I am amazed how little the actress who plays Kira seems to have aged (a vast difference than Bruce on Gotham or Carl on TWD)...
I was really worried Donny would die in this episode...relieved it was temporary.
Very well done...
One random thought...I am amazed how little the actress who plays Kira seems to have aged (a vast difference than Bruce on Gotham or Carl on TWD)...
Such a beautiful episode for Allison. Far too often she's regulated to the background (or to her own domestic storyline) as Sarah, Cosima and Helena do all of the big legwork, but this time Allison took action on not just her own personal story and demons, but also on the great clone saga. I hadn't realized she hadn't met Rachel until this point but that was one hell of a first encounter. "I should like to put my hands around your neck and squeeze." "Then we're not so different, you and I." Indeed. I'm sad she has decided to jump into a car and drive away, echoing Aynsley's mushroom-induced dream, but I fully understand why she needs to do it. I hope she's not gone for long.
I likewise loved seeing the flashbacks with Aynsley and Chad and the great mushroom trip that led to Allison's first meeting with Cosima. Not only did this episode provide touching development for Allison's storyline, but it also provided great closure for Aynsley and Chad's storyline and how they're connected to Allison.
I need a couple of refreshers: Where was Leekie's head kept (and was it in a location that was easily retrievable)? Where have the Hendrix kids been and what was the excuse for their absence from the Hendrix home?
I likewise loved seeing the flashbacks with Aynsley and Chad and the great mushroom trip that led to Allison's first meeting with Cosima. Not only did this episode provide touching development for Allison's storyline, but it also provided great closure for Aynsley and Chad's storyline and how they're connected to Allison.
I need a couple of refreshers: Where was Leekie's head kept (and was it in a location that was easily retrievable)? Where have the Hendrix kids been and what was the excuse for their absence from the Hendrix home?
I've thought the same although I noticed her cheeks are larger than they were before.
Alison gave Leekie's head to Cosima to study Evie Cho's Bot last season so it was probably kept in a safe place at the comic book store they've been hiding in. As for Alison's kids, I think Alison said that the kids were at their grandmothers place. We really haven't seen Oscar or Jemma at all for a while.
As for why the kids were at grandma's, I think it was to keep them safe from the various hazards the Hendrixes have brought on themselves.
I wasn't sure but was it confirmed last night that all this stuff is happening in a year time? Alison made a comment that she wasn't the same person this time last year and considering how quickly everything is happening I could see this series as a whole taking place in a span of one year.
But that can't be the reason what they told the kids and their grandmother. That's what I'm wondering about. Thanks for the rest of the answers.
The seasons have come one right after the other, even one minute after the other (S1-S2). 43 episodes so far, so a year to a year-and-a-half isn't that unbelievable. It's hard to wrap one's head around sure, it's been a lot of action.
I've had "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" stuck in my head for most of the day today. I would love for the Tat/Braun version to be released as a single because it was so sweet. Also, BBC America didn't show the ending credits, but they carried the song from when Alison and Donnie started all the way to the end, including the next time on and the closing credits. That was pretty cool.
This is from an interview with the creators, just prior to the premier of season 3.
Can you clarify the Orphan Black timeline? It's really only been a few weeks since Sarah watched Beth jump in front of that train, correct?
JF: It's the magic of television time but I think it's only been 30-something days. I think we're in our 40 by the end of season three.
GM: Or it might even be two months. It's not a long period of time but it's better to kind of just sink into TV time.
JF: The point of it really is that we like to go fast and we don’t like to take a lot of breaks and it's kind of part of the way our mystery presents is that we don’t really take our foot off the gas for very long.
Helena was impregnated in season 2 and is still pregnant when season 5 begins. Not sure how close she is to full term yet. So it seems like the entire series takes place over 10 months- 1 year.
I rewatched the episode last night and two podcasts I listened to called this episode filler. I don't know how this episode was filler. This season is about wrapping up the characters as well as the storylines, and wasn't that what this episode did with Alison? This whole episode was about her usefulness to clone club and she realizes how much of that she's wasted since this whole crisis started. She even mentioned it to Rachel saying Rachel looks down on her and how she isn't important. I'd contend that this episode advanced the arc in a big way because it answered lingering questions related to Alison's story arc and wrapped it up pretty well. With that out of the way, we have 7 episodes to wrap up more. Isn't that what we expect this season? I still think this is one of the best episodes Orphan Black has ever done.
Yes, absolutely right. It always startles me when a story is about setting up an expectation specifically in order to refute it, and then a lot of audience members and reviewers totally miss the refutation part and continue believing the very thing the story was specifically about proving wrong. Examples include
critics of Source Code complaining that the movie "changed" the time travel rules in the third act when in fact it was revealing that the scientists had been making the wrong assumptions all along, and critics of Wonder Woman believing that Ares actually did mind-control the Germans into waging war. Were they out getting popcorn during the climactic scenes where that belief was disproven?
In this case, the episode played with the assumption that Alison is peripheral to the narrative in order to blow it out of the water. And it was definitely significant to the series arc, because it wrapped up the whole Leekie thread that's been hanging for years now.
Heck, I can see how people might think that Alison's plotlines are less important than the others', but there's more to drama than plots. Alison is one of Tatiana Maslany's most amazing character creations. She transforms herself so totally that I constantly have trouble remembering that it isn't a separate actress. I've often disliked the directions in which the writing took the character, but that didn't make the performance any less fascinating to watch. This show is as much about showcasing Maslany's chameleonic talents as it is about advancing a plot, and in that regard, Alison is an integral part of the whole.
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