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Open Speculation about "Star Trek: Picard"

Am I the only one who wants Picard to be actually happy in retirement?
He lead a largest armada in history to save the Romulans, then unimaginable happened, he decided to actually take that year off he has been promising himself since Insurrection. After that he just decided that he has had enough "work" for couple lifetimes. He retired, got married, got a dog, started a winery to continue family tradition. Why can't it be that?
What then moves him forward in to the story?
 
I'm still not a fan of the show's title and the use of the original series font. Even though the series is focused on Jean-Luc, I would've hoped they came up with something a little more interesting than just PICARD. The title remained so hush-hush that everyone just started calling it PICARD and then when it was officially revealed to be just that, it was like, "Oh. Ok, then..."
 
What then moves him forward in to the story?
Well, you know every season of grapes are not quiet the same as any other. You have to keep a watch over them at all times. Sometimes it could be very stressful. He does have a legacy of centuries of family business to protect. It's not an easy job. I imagine he and his #1 bulldog friends are quiet busy.
 
Why should Picard be motivated to get out of wherever he is? He can let the next generation (no pun intended) take care of it.
Pun definitely intended ;)
Someone poisoned his grapes! They have to pay for what they have done.
Someone killed his dog (see the Jean Wick poster in other thread)!
The possibilities are endless :D
 
Well, you know every season of grapes are not quiet the same as any other. You have to keep a watch over them at all times. Sometimes it could be very stressful. He does have a legacy of centuries of family business to protect. It's not an easy job. I imagine he and his #1 bulldog friends are quiet busy.
Not sure if serious...

Regardless, it looks like the vineyard is central.
 
Regardless, it looks like the vineyard is central.
wine-trek-meme-star-trek-picard.jpg

You better believe it!
 
Did you notice the planet looming in the sky? That probably means something. Perhaps Picard will end up on some sort of star trek.
Why does it alway have to be star trek. Whatever happened about deep emotional trek to discover the true meaning of one self through deep meditation....... ah who do hell am I kidding ;)
 
Am I the only one who wants Picard to be actually happy in retirement?

No, you're not. The "perfect" Picard/TNG-continuation story would be a "get-the-band-back-together"-type of story, closest to "Space Cowboys". But that's not what we're getting. That being said - I'm happy they didn't "Lukye Skywalker" him entirely (give up on all his life and dreams, recluse himself entirely from all friends and civilisation, and completely and utterly fail in everything he had accomplished the previous movies and stories).

He still has a dog, a "job", and is retired. Yes, not the "Happily ever after" that we hoped for. But not the stupid eraly 2000s/grim-dark version either. I'm fine with that.

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I wonder if we'll see this ship in it, or if it's just scrapped concept art
https://i.imgur.com/gfT1Xix.png

I'm happy they didn't "Lukye Skywalker" him entirely (give up on all his life and dreams, recluse himself entirely from all friends and civilisation, and completely and utterly fail in everything he had accomplished the previous movies and stories).
I still wonder why George did that.
 
I still wonder why George did that.

I mean, I know you're trying to be clever here - but it absolutely wasn't George Lucas that planned this. This is squarely on the shoulders of Disney, J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson.

Yes, George Lucas' original script for episode 7 also included a secluded Luke Skywalker training a new, female Jedi (then called Kira). But one thing is for sure: Lucas haaates the new trilogy. And you can be 100% assured, he would NOT have included that stupid "First Order", nor would he have made episode VII a reboot of episode IV. Yes, in his pitch the Empire was still around - but they weren't curb-stomping the rebellion/new republic, and Luke not be a depressed and depressing complete failure, that wanted to murder his friends child, thereby destroying their marriage, and their political rebellion with it.

George Lucas would never have done that. There's a difference if you're going hermite if the world at large is still in good hands. Or abandoning everyone and everything that ever mattered even at their very lowest point.

Picard seems to get it right. Yes, he also seems secluded after personal failure. But he's not abandoning Starfleet when the Borg are just seconds away from destroying Earth and humanity, and putting his moping above his old friends and crew dying at the very same moment. And he's not entirely out of touch with civilisation either - he just retired. That's a difference. Hell, he's still even doing farm work!
 
But one thing is for sure: Lucas haaates the new trilogy.
Source please, especially since he worked on Episode 9 with Abrams.

I love working on things I hate. It's the best part of my job... :rolleyes:

Picard seems to get it right.
There is no "right" way to portray a person struggling with personal failure. Human beings will very in their reactions to failure.


ETA: Yeah, a short little read of George Lucas Episode 7 search results demonstrates that Lucas planned to kill Luke in episode 9. Plus, he planned on exploring the entire world of the midichlorians and "The Whills." Microbiology meets Star Wars.
 
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Is there a source for that, or is it Midnight's Edge lore?

Look, George Lucas said he felt like he sold Star Wars to "White Slavers", after Disney completely booted him and his concepts out before starting with episode 7. He even had to publicly apologize for that remark. The guy is pretty open about how he felt Disney CEO Bob Iger personally betrayed him - promising him future involvement, and instead completely kicked him out as soon as the ink was wet. His only comments on episode 7 was that he felt it was "too retro-throwback".
https://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-george-lucas-disney-white-slavers-1201669959/
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/dec/31/george-lucas-attacks-retro-star-wars-the-force-awakens
He also described it as a bad break-up.
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Just FYI - John Favreau's "The Mandalorian"-show will be the very first time George Lucas actually has any involvement creatively with Star Wars since Disney bought it.

As for George Lucas plans for episodes 7, 8, 9? There are plenty of interviews, essentially all boiling down to Disney immediately throwing all his ideas in the bin and starting anew. Here is Mark Hamill himself saying Disney should have stuck to George Lucas ideas instead:
https://www.metro.us/entertainment/movies/mark-hamill-george-lucas-star-wars

As far as direct criticism goes, he has commented episode seven was not his cup of tea, calling it too "retro" and "throwback", and as adding nothing new. Whereas the literally only thing about episode 8 he has said so far is that "it was beautifully made".
https://mashable.com/2017/12/13/last-jedi-george-lucas-review/

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Just FYI - John Favreau's "The Mandalorian"-show will be the very first time George Lucas actually has any involvement creatively with Star Wars since Disney bought it.
Incorrect.

Which makes taking the rest of what was written seriously highly difficult, since I have read multiple stories regarding Lucas' ideas of the ST. Fans would have complained about those too.
 
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