Spoilers On Seven and sexuality

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by rfmcdpei, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. ThreeEdgedSword

    ThreeEdgedSword Commander Red Shirt

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    I hope so, too. Does it mean we can make a character thread for her (not just about her sexuality)?
     
  2. Rahul

    Rahul Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    On a side-note: I never really cared for Chakotay, and the Seven-Chakotay-relationship on VOY came pretty much out of nowhere as well.

    But I'm still a bit disappointed to see them having broken up. I'm really not a fan of the "suddenly-single-in-the-sequel"-syndrome (see also: Speed 2, and literally any other action movie where only one of the main characters appeared in the sequel).
     
  3. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    He wanted to farm, and she wanted to kill Romulans, bringing order to he Galaxy.

    Is Seven going to get hooked on Snakeleaf?

    Seven is a stepmother, and stepgrandmother now, or soon, if they tie the knot.
     
  4. ThreeEdgedSword

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    Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wewent from nothing handholding and nowthey're tyig the knot? Actually, sounds just like Picard.

    I can see it now, S02E01: Wedding ceremony. Lots of fanservice (VOY crewmembers attend). Lots of comedy because everything seems to go wrong. (Yawn.) Hijinks ensue. Raffi & Seven proclaim their undying love. For each other, of course. No dry eye in the room.
    S02E02: Divorce papers are filed.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    So, Hollywood.

    Got it.
     
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  6. SpocksOddSocks

    SpocksOddSocks Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I think that was Kal-toh. Kadis-kot was actually the first name that came to my mind when I saw it too, then I remembered Tuvok playing that game shown and I couldn't hear him saying that name in my head. Kadis kot was the game Seven played with Naomi.
     
  7. Greg Cox

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    I'm not sure twenty years later is "suddenly." :)

    I'm perfectly happy to assume that they broke up amicably sometime over the last two decades, especially since they were never all that compelling a couple in the first place. I suspect that the number of viewers who were actually invested in that particular relationship number in the dozens at most.
     
  8. cooleddie74

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    For all we know Chakotay met somebody else after returning to the Alpha Quadrant, got married and had a family. He could be living a quiet life somewhere telling his children about all of his adventures on Voyager.

    And doing so woodenly. :p
     
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  9. fireproof78

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    It's definitely a long time

    I really want Chakotay to live next door to Riker.
     
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    "Will, can I borrow a cup of sugar?"

    "You know, we've lived next door to one another for years now and I don't even know your full name!"
     
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  11. Tim Thomason

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    Opening scene of S2E01:

    Captain Worf: "Romulan ale should be illegal."

    Inexplicably alive Geordi: "It is."

    New Chief of Starfleet Security Commodore Tuvok: "I'm placing you both under arrest."
     
  12. fireproof78

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    Thank you.
     
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  13. Gov Kodos

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    How many times was Kirk suddenly single?
     
  14. Sidewinder

    Sidewinder Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Please do not take this the wrong way.

    I don't mind that they put Seven and Raffi in a relationship. I mind how they did it. It came out of nowhere, even moreso than Seven and Chakotay.

    I saw them holding hands and I just went "Wait... What?" I never got a lesbian/bisexual vibe from Raffi and Seven was almost always an asexual character for the majority of Voyager.

    It just seemed very forced. Almost like "Hey, I think I'll be homosexual today!"

    Had they even hinted at it at all in previous episodes, I'd be fine with it. Instead, it came out of nowhere.
     
  15. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    How many bedrooms are on that ship?

    Some of them had to share bunks.

    Maybe there's more to this than sex, and maybe there's not.
     
  16. Gov Kodos

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    A board game and holding hands is hardly mailing out a wedding registry out of the blue. More like maybe they're just starting to feel each other out like real folks might.
     
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    NCC-73515 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Most people had First Contact Day off, including him.

    We barely got to know any of the new characters, of course we know little about Raffi's sexuality. Seven wanted to do it with Harry, in public IIRC, to explore her humanity, and then experimented with crewmen and Chakotay. Doesn't mean she's hetero ;)
     
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  18. Gov Kodos

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    And the Harry stuff was just her idea to get him focused on the work by getting past wanting sex. Ironic that it worked as well as it did for her but work it did.

    The others were just from the Doc giving just male options and her own Borg based belief of utilitarian purpose for sex. She probably never thought of what she wanted until voyager got home and realized she'd been given a load of nonsense on Voyager when she saw all the options opened and got to feel and act for herself without the Doc and Janeway shadowing every choice she made.
     
  19. Khan Jr

    Khan Jr Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    None, really. He wasn't in a relationship during the time TOS covered (other than with Spock and Starfleet, and Kirk could never keep away from them).
     
  20. Gov Kodos

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    We must have watched different shows.