And so do you!
No, not really. I was trying to find a way to find a measure of common ground but clearly I need to step back.
Old Star Trek fans: don't you sometimes get happy just because there are new series?
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You are right on my meaning of “mine”. I don’t own Star Trek, so I don’t know how it could be interpreted any other way.
As far as @fireproof78, we mix it up, here and there. I’ve never taken it any anything more than friendly needling. Thanks though for the defense.
To be fair, I have actually bought the show multiple times on various video formats, over the years.
I don't consider anything since 2005 to be what I call "Iconic Star Trek." Enterprise (for all of its considerable flaws) was the last Star Trek series and Nemesis (for all of its even more considerable flaws) the last Trek movie.
I've reached a point in my life where I don't "need" more. I used to watch a guy on YouTube who called this "fanaddictism," and I agree. More and more is made but with ever-diminishing quality and returns. Star Wars is a great example and sadly, so too is Trek.
I'm content with the following: TOS, TAS, Star Trek Continues, the TOS films (GEN doesn't count) and DS9. That's all I'll ever "need" and despite countless rewatches over decades, it's more than enough for me. I also enjoy the great Trek comics and novels of yesteryear.
All of that said, I recognize I don't speak for everyone and don't begrudge folks for liking Abrams/Kurtzman Trek.
It's like how Sylvester McCoy is 'my' Doctor in Doctor Who. He's the first one I experienced and the one I grew up with.
I think there's an unfortunate tendency for the term to seem loaded due to the prevalence of the 'not my' thing. Not my Star Trek etc.
Like @fireproof78 I came to sci-fi through different shows and means. I didn't actually watch much Star Trek until my mid-late twenties. I like Star Trek, but if it's not the best show on TV it doesn't overly bother me if it's not pressing my buttons.
I think there's an unfortunate tendency for the term to seem loaded due to the prevalence of the 'not my' thing. Not my Star Trek etc.
Like @fireproof78 I came to sci-fi through different shows and means. I didn't actually watch much Star Trek until my mid-late twenties. I like Star Trek, but if it's not the best show on TV it doesn't overly bother me if it's not pressing my buttons.
There’s all kind of flavors in this world. Ain’t it grand?
“My Trek” (at the risk of starting that whole thing over again) is Berman Trek. TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT.
And although I’m not a huge fan of TOS, I love movies 2-6. I probably have them all memorized by now (Nerd Alert!).
There are many thing about NuTrek that I enjoy: DSC, LDS, SNW. Didn’t like Picard and Prodigy….nothing wrong with it but it’s not for me.
The point is most everyone here has a story like that. Some we love, some we like, some we don’t. I think there are a lot of combinations and permutations of that for thousands of fans here. It’s all Star Trek.
And so much the better.
Exactly what I figured. I also feel the same way about all the Trek series I like, including TOS, being "my" Star Trek. TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY are My Old Star Trek. PIC is My Old Star Trek except 20 Years Later. DSC is My New Star Trek.
Understood.
McCoy is at very edge of my earliest memories, so I completely understand the sentiment. From that perspective, I'd say TNG and the TOS Movies are my Trek, due to their influence while growing up. They were definitely my gateway sci-fi, if anything else.
I was nodding along until you got to Star Trek Continues. You are interested in "more" you just don't like the "more" they are giving you. Just saying.
I understand this is a thing (and increasingly a more ordinary thing) it still feels weird. TOS fans, the boomers of Star Trek. (Sometimes literal boomers.)
You missed a spot!
I call TOS and DS9 "my Trek" because I like them most + I grew up with TOS.
But I also enjoyed watching TAS, TNG, VOY, ENT, LDS, PIC and SNW most of the time.
The only Trek I didn't like was DISCO and so I say, it's just not my Trek.
Prodigy I didn't watch so far...but I will.
But I also enjoyed watching TAS, TNG, VOY, ENT, LDS, PIC and SNW most of the time.
The only Trek I didn't like was DISCO and so I say, it's just not my Trek.
Prodigy I didn't watch so far...but I will.
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I grew up on TOS & TAS, watched TNG in college, and adore DS9. But I also really like DIS, LD, and PRO. At some point, I'll try VOY and ENT again.
Same.
TOS/TAS are the most Trek to me since that was my first exposure to this franchise and the Concordance as my knowledge base.
Yes, I'm happy. Even with Treks that aren't my cup of tea.
Yes, they go in crazy new directions. But after watching Voyager suffer because of the showrunners' efforts to turn it into TNG Lite (even having that single character who deserved a promotion and didn't get one, just like TNG did), I like that just fine. Maybe I don't like everything new they try. But a lot of it I do.
Yes, they go in crazy new directions. But after watching Voyager suffer because of the showrunners' efforts to turn it into TNG Lite (even having that single character who deserved a promotion and didn't get one, just like TNG did), I like that just fine. Maybe I don't like everything new they try. But a lot of it I do.
I’ve always had a pretty hesitant disinterest towards PRO. I’ve tried to get into it a few times in the past and always failed…
However, the past 10 days or so I sat through the first four episodes and… I want to watch the next one, so maybe I finally get it?
However, the past 10 days or so I sat through the first four episodes and… I want to watch the next one, so maybe I finally get it?
I don't want to hint at anything that might even slightly spoil it for you, but I will say that I have never once seen a single person on the internet ever say that Prodigy starts good and gets worse.
I know it's well loved... it's why it's always frustrated me that I couldn't click with it. I'd say I'm not 'there' yet, but I am enjoying what I see so far.
It takes about three, certainly at least two for it to get going. Basically the main characters are not Star Trek characters. But they eventually find themselves in a Star Trek show. So you need to get through to that realization. It's like if you spent several episodes with the planetary characters from Gamesters of Triskellion before the Enterprise showed up. (Kinda.)
I watched the first few episodes with my son and we didn't think it was bad but we weren't sure why this was a Star Trek show. Then I binged the whole first season on my own. At the end I went back to the kids and said "OK, I get it now. And you have to watch this!"
We just ran through all of season 2 and we all loved it.
Also if you object to modern Trek because the crews are not old school Starfleet disciplined? This show is literally all of that.
Maybe.
I haven't gotten there yet. I made it 4 and was not driving me to come back.
I grew up with TOS and TAS watching them as and when I could with TV reruns.
Was happy when TNG came about and enjoyed the series as they developed. Liked DS9 a lot and I'm my opinion it got better and darker as the series numbers went up.
VOY was annoying at first but got better, I never liked the Kazon or Kes for that matter.
I tried to watch ENT first time round and hated it but watched it again after my Son suggested it and did enjoy it. However I disliked how they changed a lot of cannon and had a previously unknown Enterprise shoehorned in to the history and had better looking tech than TOS.
That's were "my trek" ended, I've watched parts of odd episodes of all the others, and the first series of Picard and hated them all. They are not MY idea of Trek and hold no interest to me and doubt they, now, ever will.
New Trek has changed too much for me or maybe I've grown too old for new Trek?
Was happy when TNG came about and enjoyed the series as they developed. Liked DS9 a lot and I'm my opinion it got better and darker as the series numbers went up.
VOY was annoying at first but got better, I never liked the Kazon or Kes for that matter.
I tried to watch ENT first time round and hated it but watched it again after my Son suggested it and did enjoy it. However I disliked how they changed a lot of cannon and had a previously unknown Enterprise shoehorned in to the history and had better looking tech than TOS.
That's were "my trek" ended, I've watched parts of odd episodes of all the others, and the first series of Picard and hated them all. They are not MY idea of Trek and hold no interest to me and doubt they, now, ever will.
New Trek has changed too much for me or maybe I've grown too old for new Trek?
I probably should have lumped STC along with the comics and novels. At the end of the day, they're fun and feel like my favorite Trek but they're not essential. Everything else I mentioned is, at least to me.I was nodding along until you got to Star Trek Continues. You are interested in "more" you just don't like the "more" they are giving you. Just saying.
I understand this is a thing (and increasingly a more ordinary thing) it still feels weird. TOS fans, the boomers of Star Trek. (Sometimes literal boomers.)
You missed a spot!
As for it being more, it's a limited run that was incredibly faithful to the spirit, tone, continuity, and yes, even aesthetic of TOS. That's the "more" I'd wholeheartedly support because those elements matter to me most.
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