I agree. There were bread crumbs of ideas and consequences to actions that I found engaging. And then it would peter out over the run and remind me that things need to return back to a certain status.
Old Star Trek fans: don't you sometimes get happy just because there are new series?
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Stuff that made me truly enjoy the Borg.
Now that's a controversial opinion!
I was about halfway through season two, when I learned that they were bringing back the TNG cast and flushing most of the cast I was watching. It immediately killed my interest in the show. I still haven't finished season two.
You’re not missing much. Brent Spiner chewing scenery as a sub-par Bond villain knock off, loads of plot lines that go nowhere and a random Wesley cameo.
As @Commander Troi said, so, so much wasted potential.
That was my answer as well.
If PIC was only going to be three seasons anyway (and only 30(?) episodes total at that), then I really wish TPTB could have gone to the effort of writing a cohesive narrative (at least in the broad strokes) to run through it. With that number of episodes they even could have had some 'filler'.
Ask The Acolyte how THAT plan worked out for them.
Things still get split up by executive mandate.
At least then I'd be less annoyed with the writing and more annoyed with the people who axed it.
It was mostly watchable meh (which, seriously, is FINE) and they lost me when
they went with "Heeeeey, maybe the Sith aren't so bad after all!" Good guys stupidly and accidentally killed people and were cowards in covering it up. And we just know this guy's gotta pay. But then Sith boy comes along and intentionally kills the heck out of Jedi young and old. And we're supposed to be even a little ambivalent about this?
It's enough to make you go hide on a space island and milk space cows for 20 years.
It's enough to make you go hide on a space island and milk space cows for 20 years.
Some really good fight scenes though. Oh, and we quit watching for a few weeks and watched all of Andor instead. That didn't help it much by comparison. Andor is SO GOOD!
It wasn't nearly as bad as Picard but it wasn't anywhere near as good either. Picard is an annoying show. YES I would watch another season which puts it ahead of Section 31.
I don't know how anyone got that read from the show...O_o
Link to Acolyte thread to continue on: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/the-acolyte.306553/post-14905900
You mean you wanted. Out of those three options, the only one I'd say yes to is more Lower Decks, and even then I'm not that bothered it's ending.
And as much as I love SNW, I'm completely okay with only getting ten episodes a season.
It brings whatever momentum the story had towards figuring out what's going on with Picard's relative and the Europa mission to a DEAD STOP.
They've built up the threat of all of existence being on the line, and then you get to the episode where Picard's hurt and we spend 50 minutes on a side quest of him working through his daddy issues, and it just feels like the showing stretching with filler.
In general, I liked the first 2-3 episodes of Picard season 2, but once they get to present-day Los Angeles, I think the entire thing goes off the rails. They try to give all the characters side-quests, and some them have those characters acting stupidly because the script needs them to act stupid in order to create dilemmas and issues for them.
It's almost a throw-away line, but I believe Worf may imply the intelligence which pointed him towards the threat of Rogue changelings came from Odo. I seem to recall he says something along the lines that the information came from an "old friend."
I've always liked the interpretation which goes the Jedi are just misguided in their interpretation of the Force as the Sith, just not in as outwardly a destructive kind of way a way. However, the Jedi's arrogance and corruption is directly responsible for the Old Republic's fall. Their inability to understand the need for people, let alone children, to have loving connections in their life, is their ultimate undoing. If they could have understood that all Anakin wanted and needed was a loving relationship in his life, does he become Darth Vader? Is someone like Palpatine able to temp him?
Taking in an orphaned, traumatized boy, teaching him to deny those feelings instead of trying to work through them, refusing him the ability to have supportive intimate relationships, and downplaying that love when he's worried about Padme, was just a recipe for disaster.
Although, in Lucas's view of the Force, the Dark Side is not an equal and opposite to the Light. He takes an Augustinian view, where the Dark Side is an aberration of the true nature of the Force.
I took "The Acolyte" as positioning Qimir as a terrorist who views himself as a freedom fighter battling an oppressive bureaucracy whose mission is to destroy anyone who believes in what he believes (basically the reverse of the Jedi Purge during the Imperial era). And the story is about how people can rationalize themselves into by radicalized based on the bad actions of the Jedi's flawed system.
I think there was a part of the audience that was predisposed to hate "The Acolyte" but there's a hell of a lot of goofy stuff in there. That "The Power of One, The Power of Two, The Power of Maaaaaannnnnyyyyy" is one of the cringiest things I've seen in Star Wars.
I think there was a part of the audience that was predisposed to hate "The Acolyte" but there's a hell of a lot of goofy stuff in there. That "The Power of One, The Power of Two, The Power of Maaaaaannnnnyyyyy" is one of the cringiest things I've seen in Star Wars.
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Yeah, I never felt that ambivalence. As good as Manny (and his arms) were, I judged the character by his actions.
And yes, Andor is SO GOOD!
D'oh! Thanks, I forgot about that!
Yeah. I hated that from the moment it came up in TPM. It also shows a fundamental misunderstanding of Yin/Yang.
I didn't know George viewed the Force like that. Very limiting IMO.
For me, Picard was an intrinsically flawed concept: TNG was always an ensemble show. This was a fact throughout the series. Stewart and Spiner get more and more control, and the TNG movies suffer as a result. Everyone thinks TNG is dead after NEM until Stewart comes aboard, but is very clear that any new show will be about his character, not the Enterprise-D crew. That's not the premise of the show nor what fans wanted. Continuity and characterization issues aside, a TNG follow-up should have been what season three was: seeing where the ensemble was twenty-five years later, essentially "All Good Things" but after two and a half decades. Stewart's "direction" that the show should primarily focus on him, Trump and Brexit, and only tangentially address the rest of the massive 24th century era is why the first two seasons are truly awful.
Just to clarify: you're saying that anyone who is unhappy with Abrams/Kurtz Trek is only unhappy because they're "old curmudgeons (corrected your spelling) with a stick up...and in a perpetual state of grumpiness?"
Putting aside the inherent ageism in that statement, it's also quite limiting in terms of recognizing that other people have different opinions and tastes that this doesn't make them whatever you decide to label them.
If I misread your post, please let me know so I can correct myself.
Please don't speak as though you speak for all fans. I was much happier with S1 of PIC than I was with S3. I understood what the premise would be and I was not clamoring to see the return of the entire ensemble. Doing so felt like TPTB admitting that the show was a fundamental failure, and I found it pretty disrespectful to the original cast of the series (barring the ones who were retained).
Frankly, I also find S3's message of, "once you become of a certain age, nostalgia is really all you have to look forward to" both unrealistic and somewhat disrespectful to older people. The show could have tried to send a message that just because one of the biggest adventures of your life is over doesn't mean you can't have more amazing adventures with new and different people, but instead it essentially went for the lowest common denominator and took the easy way out.
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