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Old Star Trek fans: don't you sometimes get happy just because there are new series?

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I remember the post-Enterprise dark times, when it seemed like there was no room for Star Trek in the 21st century (in fact, I think it seemed that way even DURING Enterprise). Now I feel like I'm living in a golden age.

Instead I see a lot of people criticizing: "Oh no, they made the wrong period to make the new series", "The choice of the actor who will play the fourth extra on the bridge was a disaster", "Ha ha! But have you seen how they made the new warp nacelles? Do they take us for idiots???"

I, on the other hand, am simply happy to know that every now and then I will see a new episode that will take me to the stars. But am I the only one? Too naive and not savvy enough to "really" understand what is needed in a new Star Trek series?

I don't feel happy about new series' development anymore because they're not being made for me. I used to feel disgruntled about that (and still have flare ups from time to time), but have accepted the fact that I've aged out of most target demographics. And besides that, Star Trek is a massive property and I have no right to tell anybody what kind of stories they can/should tell in canon. So I'm pretty apathetic.

What I do get happy about is when I see a new TOS or TNG-era novel come out. Right now I'm reading Pliable Truths and it hits the spot for me.
 
Overall I did not find Picard THAT bad, sure they overdid the Borg and Q again but overall it wasn't that bad. What made people unhappy about that exactly? I just want to know which parts made people so unhappy.
 
Overall I did not find Picard THAT bad, sure they overdid the Borg and Q again but overall it wasn't that bad. What made people unhappy about that exactly? I just want to know which parts made people so unhappy.

Picard was like getting a gallon of your favorite milkshake. You’ll like it for a bit, then puke your guts up from all the syrupy nostalgia.
 
No longer unfortunately.
Fandom wanted Legacy, more LD and longer seasons of SNW.
But we get S:31 which looks horrible, an Academy series nobody ever wanted and now a Trek.. sitcom??
I'll still watch them but no, no longer excited about anything Trek related.
 
Overall I did not find Picard THAT bad, sure they overdid the Borg and Q again but overall it wasn't that bad. What made people unhappy about that exactly? I just want to know which parts made people so unhappy.
Since you asked...
S1 is alright, especially by Trek S1 standards. It's an interesting premise, and it's nice to get a glimpse of what things are like at that point in the timeline. The new characters are generally nice to see and I liked the info about the xBs...I really liked seeing Hugh again, and was fairly upset by how he was disposed of, but at least he died making a difference. The biggest stumbling point for me is the story arc and the nature of the Monster AI at the end. I wasn't expecting the universe to be threatened by Doc Ock.

S2 is a hot mess, where the first couple of episodes are the best of the whole season, and most of those aforementioned characters I enjoyed are slowly written out one way or another. When Our Heroes find themselves in the (near-)present, I expected it to last two or three episodes, not for the rest of the season. Soong's arc feels tacked on as a way to give Brent Spiner something to do, and I'm at a loss to explain Q's motives.

S3 actively pisses me off. It represents a 180 from the original premise (promise?) of the series, burying any story coherence under shameless nostalgia and calling it 'good enough'. Most of the characters I enjoyed from S1 and S2 don't even appear, and even the huge implications of the S2 finale are just swept under the rug. Captain Shaw and the return of Ro Laren are two of the only aspects that don't entirely irritate me. Even the first episode involves Beverly pleading with Picard to trust nobody and him immediately telling other people what's going on. That a rogue faction of Changelings (how much better would it have been to see what was going on with the Dominion itself?) would ally with the Borg makes zero sense to me. The appearance of the E-D at the end is technically impressive but emotionally somewhat empty to me, and again, I'm not sure it makes any sense in terms of story logic. While this isn't entirely its fault, the parallels between the series finale and the S1 finale of Prodigy can't be overlooked either, nor can the sheer stupidity of Starfleet networking their vessels to this degree. Also, as a fan of the music of Star Trek, it really bugs me that the composer for S1 and S2 was apparently shown the door as well.

I would very much like to see the Picard that retains the characters and premise from S1 instead of beginning an about-face in S2 and completing it in S3.
 
Well... Kinda wanted. I never wanted DS9 either. Shows me
I am tired of being told "it's not what someone wanted."

Ok, so what?

Maybe we will enjoy it any way.

an Academy series nobody ever wanted and now a Trek.. sitcom??
I have wanted an Academy series for 30 years. And Lower Decks is fairly popular, if sometimes annoying to some for its humor, so a sitcom is logical extension of that success.
 
I don't know that I want an Academy series. But I didn't really want Lower Decks or Prodigy, and I had a bunch of reservations about Discovery and SNW, and those all turned out at least alright and at best pretty darn good as far as I'm concerned.

Try it; you might like it.
 
I don’t begrudge people who want that type of show, I just don’t understand the allure.

Not talking about you, Bill and your statement is 100% fair.

I’d say that the membership of this forum represents a tiny sliver of fandom as a whole though.

‘I don’t want it’.

No problem.

‘Nobody wants it’

Well… how can that be true when the likes of Fireproof and myself have been quite happy with the announcement? Are we then ‘nobody?’

I also hear ‘nobody wants another 32nd Century show’ when, whilst taking my increasing disinterest in Star Trek generally into account, another 32nd Century show is pretty much the only way forward for me and Trek.

Limitless possibilities to explore and tied to nothing. Let’s go.
 
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I also hear ‘nobody wants another 32nd Century show’ when, taking my increasing disinterest in Star Trek generally into account, another 32nd Century show is pretty much the only way forward for me and Trek.

If they were creating a show that moved the franchise forward in a new era, I would tend to agree. Two things make me believe that won’t happen. One being their current track record making Trek. Two being once again needing a legacy character to lean on.

Just all from my point of view. YMMV.
 
If they were creating a show that moved the franchise forward in a new era, I would tend to agree. Two things make me believe that won’t happen. One being their current track record making Trek. Two being once again needing a legacy character to lean on.

Just all from my point of view. YMMV.

It’s Robert Picardo though… I mean, I like to watch YouTube vids of Robert Picardo walking around in a forest talking to himself… and at least he’s being put into a new context rather than another glorified reunion.

Agree on the writing, but like the old fool I am, I always live in hope.
 
My biggest gripe with PIC (all seasons) is that they would have these really cool ideas or character moments and then... either did nothing with them or undermined them. It was very frustrating.

Personally, I would've loved to see follow-up with the XBs and the Jurati Borg. Yeah, still The Borg, but interesting and new ways of looking at them.

Also, I agree that I would've liked to see the Dominion or at least how they were handling (or ignoring) the rouge Changelings. It didn't have to be much, just something to tie in to the larger universe.
 
To me, you have to be a really good writer to make "canon as the story" interesting. A couple of the novelists have achieved it, @Greg Cox and @Dayton Ward. I've yet to see it executed well on TV.

EDIT: I forgot Peter David, who was a master at weaving canon details together for interesting stories, in both novels and comics.

Even for non-comics readers, I would recommend his work on DC's second Trek run, especially the sterling, "Once a Hero...", issue #19. His final story for the run.
 
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