Spoilers New Short Trek - Q&A

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Tuskin38, Oct 5, 2019.

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How Would You Rate This Short?

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  1. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    My thought was for a while was that Number One had the turbolift stalled on purpose so she could find out more about Spock.

    If Number One was interested in Spock, that would've come across too much like Star Trek's version of The Graduate. An Ensign who recently graduated from the Academy and a woman in her 30s or 40s, one step away from being Captain.

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    Anyway, I think I should clarify what prompted my response. Someone taking an unnecessary dig at "Me Too". Not you. That's the point where I was like, "Okay. That's enough. I'm weighing in."
     
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  2. penguin44

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    As for the lift visual, it put me off but I get they just used the same shot from Discovery to save money. Why do CGI turbo's for a short when you can re-use one.
     
  3. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    Actually, I like the music in TOS just fine. It's the music in the other shows, particularly the Berman era I was referring to. Trek movies typically do have great music, even the Berman ones.
    Because those uniforms look much better with the collar unzipped.
     
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  4. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Actually, yeah, when an action could even remotely be construed as a MeToo situation, you do need to spell out what you're intending and doing, period. This is something everyone needs to know, not just in Star Trek. This is important to protect everyone, men and women.
     
  5. Clegg Nog

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    Literature is full of characters symbolically unbuttoning their outerwear in a non-sexual symbolic manner.

    The theme of the episode was very specifically not about sex.

    And Pulitzer winners don't tell. They show through subtextual nuance.
     
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  6. eschaton

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    Man, I wish there were two Short Treks coming out every week. This is great.
     
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  7. F. King Daniel

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    They didn't. It's a new CG, with a differently shaped turbolift.
     
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  8. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    With all due respect, I definitely prefer to err on the side of caution 200% in real life. But yeah, this is a tv show.
     
  9. Timo

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    I guess living in constant fear is a valid choice...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  10. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    And with all due respect I request you leave it at that. You haven't lived my life or been through the things I've been through or met the people I've met and are in absolutely no position to judge.
     
  11. ToyBoxComix

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    They were in the turbolift for an unspecified amount of time -- probably hours. Loosening a uniform slightly, either for temperature or just physical comfort, is perfectly reasonable. Taking off the outer top entirely to reveal the undershirt would also be perfectly reasonable.
     
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  12. plynch

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    I am now unzipping my hoodie a bit, truly. Tne zipper is a bit too close to my throat. I do not intend this sexually. Thank you.
     
  13. Rainard Fox

    Rainard Fox Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I wonder how very common is the opinion that everything that woman does is a seducing act. She smiles? She is flirting. She sings? Of course she's flirting. She unzips her collar? She is flirting! She doesn't even watch on you? It's a new flirting methode!
    Star Trek Federation ever was to me a model of society where sexual freedom and safety are absolute. Women can trust men, men can trust women, sexual harrassement is unbelievable case - as much as racial or gender discrimination. So they can unzip their clothes or take it off completely if it comfortable, and it wouldn't look like sexual challenge.
    In the same time they are not asexual, they are very sexual and enjoy it, without modern everyday fear to hurt someone or be hurted.
     
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  14. Happy X-Mas (War Is Over)

    Happy X-Mas (War Is Over) If You Want It Premium Member

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    Another entry in the vague and uninformative column.
     
  15. Happy X-Mas (War Is Over)

    Happy X-Mas (War Is Over) If You Want It Premium Member

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    What? Really, every adjustment to one's clothing must be preceded by a formal announcement? How absurd.
     
  16. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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  17. Ar-Pharazon

    Ar-Pharazon Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Actually, you'll need everyone in view to sign a waiver of some sort.
     
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  18. Serveaux

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    It's funny - there's a lot I didn't like about STD, but I've never had any problems with the way the TOS characters - Spock, Number One, Pike, even Mudd - were written. Same for the JJTrek movies, which I love.

    People need to see and remember beyond these characters at their most stereotypical, which seems to be the basis of any objection (Spock doesn't smile? Of course he did, and more than a couple of times). Spock in particular had quite a range of behavior, unlike some of the later Vulcan portrayals by less gifted actors or those given more limited material (by the time of DS9, Vulcans were generally just assholes).

    I've been watching this stuff since 1966, and it's intriguing to see new interpretations of the original characters.
     
  19. Ronald Held

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    If the turbolift stops, does it follow that it's environment controls are out?
     
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  20. Yistaan

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    You do realize that Charlie Rose and Weinstein having loose bathrobes when coming out of the bathroom was a complaint right? I'm not defending those guys at all, they're criminals and should be in jail, but the fact of the matter is we need to be very careful for the safety of everyone. Men especially shouldn't do anything even remotely construed as something bad. No one wants to go down the slippery slope to becoming a MeToo offender. We don't even want a single action in common with criminals like them.

    And for equality's sake, I would hope Number One follows the same rules, but it's a tv show so whatever.

    @Rainard Fox , your post sounds sarcastic or something. Here's my response. It's a tough world out there. I've seen people threatened with restaining orders, having their lives destroyed, just because they happened to be in the same eating area as a woman who claims he's "stalking" her. (He was literally eating in the dorm food hall he had every legal right to eat at). In the end he was legally cleared of course (he had done nothing wrong) but he was never the same again, and never will be. I have firsthand experience with these things and know you can never be too careful.

    Try to learn and be understanding before you judge.
     
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