Spoilers New Short Trek - Q&A

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Tuskin38, Oct 5, 2019.

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How Would You Rate This Short?

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  1. Amasov

    Amasov Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    After having the whole turbo lift discussion, I realized that I never truly gave my thoughts. Overall, I liked it. It was not what I would’ve expected Spock’s first day on the Enterprise to be, but, I’m sure that’s was intentional.

    It introduces a fascinating dynamic between Spock and Number One. I, too, got the sense that she was someone who helped him become who he was and, perhaps, even mentored him a bit. I wouldn’t suspect that she was someone who kept a watchful eye over him (perhaps in the beginning), but, I get the feeling she specifically chose Spock for the Enterprise because she saw something very special in him.

    If a Pike series came to pass, I think I’d want it to start at this point and not post-season 2 of Discovery. I’d love to see Spock’s earliest days on the Enterprise, how that evolved over time, and where he fits in within the relationship between Pike and Number One; it could be something a little different when compared with Kirk and McCoy.
     
  2. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Did we get an exact timepoint reference, BTW? Do we know which year this happened? Or how many years after a known event? Or on what stardate, failing all else? (I mean in-episode references, not deductive reasoning from our possibly false assumptions.)

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  3. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I get the impression that Number One intended to give a whirlwind first impression to the "new meat" on the ship, some solid senior officer advice and then get to work.

    Then she ends up spending hours in the turbolift with him and they are forced to spend a lot more time bonding than she ever intended.

    It's an "ironic hell" because she pressed him to open up more, never expecting to have to open up this much.
     
  4. serabine

    serabine Commander Red Shirt

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    What I liked the most about her is that she strongly encouraged Spock to ask questions until they would leave the turbolift for the bridge, and even if that interval of time for questions became much, much longer than she could have known, and Spock was clearly exhausting her a bit with his incessant barrage, she never told him to stop. She never went back on her giving him leave to ask whatever he thought of and did her best to answer him to the best of her ability. I can easily see any other first officer shutting that down as soon as it became inconvenient.
     
  5. eschaton

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    One little thing that bugged me - why did Una unzip her jacket a little bit? I almost interpreted that as an intention to try to flirt with him initially, but then it went somewhere else entirely.
     
  6. drt

    drt Commodore Commodore

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    She’s both literally and figuratively “unbuttoning” herself.
     
  7. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Admiral Admiral

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    You try spending several hours with another hot-blooded being in an enclosed space and not having to loosen up tight fitting clothing eventually.
    (I got caught in an elevator once with two other people for almost three hours, after the first 90 minutes it got pretty hot and stuffy in there)
    :ack:
     
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  8. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Why not? It's a classic visual shorthand of relaxing, unbuttoning or loosening the tie.
     
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  9. Eric1981

    Eric1981 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    That was terrible. Good god.
     
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  10. Noname Given

    Noname Given Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    All through TOS and especially after the Fed/Dominion War in DS9 - you can put said argument to bed. Starfleet IS the Military of the Federation hands down despite what GR loved to try and claim post TOS.
     
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  11. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I can't believe I forgot this scene, it disturbed me at the time. What were the writers thinking? If the genders had been reversed, Number One would have been thrown into the brig as a MeToo predator.
     
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  12. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    I'm impressed with what people find to have problems with "Q&A". I was too busy enjoying it.
     
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  13. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Maybe she found it too warm?
    Or to loosen the uniform up a bit before dancing.

    Not everything is sexual god.
     
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  14. Yistaan

    Yistaan Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Did she say that? I can't remember. Usually such an action would be announced, "I need to loosen this uniform, it's hot."

    Starships also have environmental controls. At least they did in the 24th century. That's the first thing the Borg sabotaged in First Contact.
     
  15. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Like look at the context of the entire scene, not everything should be explained to you.

    It probably didn't have to do with the environment, but the rest of the scene shows it wasn't what you think.
     
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  16. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The turbolift was broken down, perhaps the thermostat was buggered up too?
     
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  17. starsuperion

    starsuperion Commodore Commodore

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    She had to unzip a bit, because she was going to be shocked to the floor and wanted to be comfortable for the fall.
     
  18. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    Sometimes I unbutton or unzip a shirt I'm wearing. It's amazing stuff. I've been doing it since the '80s.

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    Yeah. Usually, I can see where the criticisms are coming from even if I don't agree with them. But this whole thing is taking it up to a whole new level. It's like an art form.

    On the other hand, if turbolifts, transporters, and zippers are the worst anyone can come up with, that just shows they delivered a winner with "Q&A".
     
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  19. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I just said it was unsettling to me for like five seconds...until I realized something else was going on.

    I do wonder if the intent was to make you think she was going to hit on Spock for a smidge - to try to knock your expectations off-kilter before something else entirely happened.
     
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  20. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    My thought was for a while was that Number One had the turbolift stalled on purpose so she could find out more about Spock.

    If Number One was interested in Spock, that would've come across too much like Star Trek's version of The Graduate. An Ensign who recently graduated from the Academy and a woman in her 30s or 40s, one step away from being Captain.

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    Anyway, I think I should clarify what prompted my response. Someone taking an unnecessary dig at "Me Too". Not you. That's the point where I was like, "Okay. That's enough. I'm weighing in."
     
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