Spoilers New Short Trek - Q&A

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Tuskin38, Oct 5, 2019.

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How Would You Rate This Short?

  1. 1

    5.8%
  2. 2

    0.8%
  3. 3

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. 4

    3.3%
  5. 5

    2.5%
  6. 6

    9.9%
  7. 7

    11.6%
  8. 8

    36.4%
  9. 9

    17.4%
  10. 10

    12.4%
  1. gornsky

    gornsky Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    I have stayed a couple of times at the Shinagawa Prince Hotel in Tokyo. Amongst it's many internal wonders (a bowling alley, a movie theatre, an aquarium, a giant pirate ship, weird robots that deliver your dinner) there is also an internal roller coaster that twists and turns through the walls of the hotel. You stand at a pair of doors, they open, a little car arrives from within the darkness, you get in, the doors close. Then you are thrown and tossed around in the darkness. Although I couldn't see any of it, I have always imagined that that roller coaster looks something like these turbolift shafts. So there is a 21st century precedent.

    But yeah, so weird and cavernous. Dr Who-esque even. But I had so much love for this episode and these characters. The bright colours, the sense of wonder and optimism and mystery and a journey just begun. It made me happy.
     
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  2. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The Turbolift Funhouse kinda reminds me of the opening of ST'09, when Captain Robau comes down the turbolift to engineering. Pretty sure that's a massive shaft in the middle of nothing and nowhere too.
     
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  3. Amasov

    Amasov Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, this is the only thing about Discovery I don't like. I try to look away when these scenes come up. LOL
     
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  4. Amasov

    Amasov Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I did notice one thing. Apparently the *new* uniforms aren't so new after all since the Enterprise has had them for at least three years now. :lol:

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Yistaan

    Yistaan Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The Discovery novel Desperate Hours already dealt with this. Constitution class ships got their own special uniforms. When Pike means "We got the new uniforms", he means "new" as in "new for the rest of the fleet", who will be getting them in 2257 after Starfleet decides to make the design fleetwide.
     
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  6. Amasov

    Amasov Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Alright. I'm sold. :techman:
     
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  7. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    And the Enterprise crew are impressed by the Turbolift Funhouse™ (something about seeing where the Federation spends it's pennies) and in "Q&A" we see the Enterprise has one too.
     
  8. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Admiral Admiral

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    Budget
     
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  9. plynch

    plynch Commodore Commodore

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    Changed my vote to 6. Just too dippy/cheesy with the singing.
     
  10. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    But I like the beats and the shouting!
     
  11. JD

    JD Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The Turbolift set up is one of the few things that really consistently bugs me in Discovery. I just don't understand how that works with all of the decks and other stuff on the ship. The way they show it, it looks like it would have to take up almost the entire body of the ship all by itself.
    I don't have a problem with wanting a cool visual, but they could at least come up with one that makes sense.
     
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  12. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, neither is the Discovery. And those are the two things equated as being "new". Pike got the uniforms, presumably when sailing out for his five-year mission. Lorca got the internally gleaming Discovery.

    No doubt it's the same thing as in the Kelvinverse: the tricolor suite goes to the deep space explorers, who actually revert to the duller darkies when returning to the civilization.

    Then again, the Discovery has interior to burn.

    The secondary hull only has portholes to the edges of the keel structure; most of the interior is unknown to us, save for a diamond pattern of Jeffries tubes suggested in a Glenn diagram. Furthermore, the thick neck is the same: in zoom-ins, we see the portholes on the sides are to corridors running along said sides, while the broad middle lacks portholes in the forward view. Indeed, there's the suggestion of a big square forward hatch there, as if the neck indeed were some sort of a single open space.

    It's a more demanding job to fit the turbolift roller coaster within the Enterprise. Yes, that ship's secondary hull is also famed for its vast centerline cavity, but not that vast. And she's supposedly a purpose-built ship full of businesslike parts, rather than a flying science fair with weird experiments suspended inside willy-nilly.

    Then again again, perhaps the ride was within Starbase 40 instead, and Spock just beamed to the entry foyer labeled Enterprise, right next to the one labeled Farragut, before taking the lift to the ship proper. :vulcan:

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  13. Ronald Held

    Ronald Held Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Portholes are often mistaking for sensors, at least from what I have read here.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    I personally am at the point where I just don't take it seriously. I think it is set up as a fun visual gag, and perhaps a small reminder (or perhaps, not so small) that Trek doesn't need to always be so serious.

    That said, it annoys me, and I just ignore it.
     
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  15. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I LOVE the Turbolift Funhouse.

    I don't really care if it makes sense or not; it looks cool, and (IMHO) is not particularly important to the storyline, so why make a big deal out of it? It's just artistic license writ large. :shrug:
     
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  16. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Tomorrow Never Knows Premium Member

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    It reminds me of Space Mountain at Disneyland. More so if you're stuck and they turn the lights on. :lol:
     
  17. drt

    drt Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Based on the Kelvinverse Enterprise, and not really contradicted by anything in TOS, I’ve decided that the saucer features a more regular deck arrangement, while the engineering hull is basically a shell built around a bunch of BigMachines™ such as the transporter, navigational deflector, warp engine reactors/power distribution, hangar spaces, connecting corridors for personnel, etc. The turbolift funhouse just snakes around all this crap until it gets to the saucer.
     
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  18. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Kirk more or less says as much, in two TOS episodes that use a single confining set to try and match his claim about the secondary hull being a "maze" where the villain of the week can hide indefinitely. Well, finally we see more!

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  19. King Daniel Beyond

    King Daniel Beyond Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Not just the secondary hull, we see in Beyond that the entire rear quarter of the saucer is hollow too, around the separation mechanisms.

    There still isn't room for the Funhouse, though:lol:

    (Nor is there for Ten Forward, the reboot Enterprise shuttlebay, Voyager's shuttlebay 2, etc etc)
     
  20. Ralphis

    Ralphis Captain Captain

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    Anything that's Star Trek is already guaranteed to get at least a 5 from me, even Spock's Brain. You throw in Rebecca Romijn and that automagically gives it 2 extra points. So we were already starting off with a 7 before the Short Trek even began. And well, I really enjoyed it. Rebecca Romijn was there. I like both actors in those roles - they work well together. I enjoyed the dialogue. I laughed. And Rebecca Romijn was there. I got to see that sweet Disco-ized Enterprise bridge again. And Rebecca Romijn was there. So, with all of that in mind, I gave it a 10.