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Another vote for Singularity. The exchange between Archer and Trip in Engineering always gets me!
indianatrekker26, it's been really interesting hearing your take on Enterprise. I hope you'll come back to tell us what you think of the rest of the series when you're done with Friends.
indianatrekker26, it's been really interesting hearing your take on Enterprise. I hope you'll come back to tell us what you think of the rest of the series when you're done with Friends.
indianatrekker -- I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Future Tense. That's one of my favs for true Trekness.
(How have you gotten through life without ever seeing Friends?)
(How have you gotten through life without ever seeing Friends?)
I probably won't get back to seeing any episodes until later this week. "Future Tense" is the next episode I'm on.
You'll see the Andorians again in Season 2's Cease Fire (a good episode - imo).
I got through three more episodes tonight, "Canamar", "The Crossing" and "Judgement." The first two episodes were very mediocre. I've seen better prison and alien-takeover shows. "The Crossing" started out so promising.
"Judgement" was great!
Overall, I havent been impressed with season 2. I can see now why the show was having ratings trouble this season.
"Judgement" was great!
Overall, I havent been impressed with season 2. I can see now why the show was having ratings trouble this season.
You skipped Future Tense?????
Seriously, watch that one next.
Seriously, watch that one next.
oh, im sorry. I did watch "Future Tense." I forgot to comment on that one. It was good, I'm always a sucker for time travel stories. Great to see a classic TOS alien, the Tholians, even if it was just their ships. I really hope this "Temporal Cold War" is going somewhere.
Your coming up to a stretch of good ones now - some of my favourite episodes from the whole show in fact (with the exception of one or two).
Sigh. I remember being this hopeful. The TCW heats up considerably next season but it's best not to expect clear cut answers beyond that. Once the Producers knew Enterprise's days were numbered, they took the easy way out.
Sorry to hear you didn't like "Singularity". On face value, it does seem like a retread but for me, the character conflict rose the whole episode above all that. Comparing this to similar episodes on TNG/VOY, the crux was that people solved the crisis, rather than any use of randomly generated technobabble. If anything it's a decent throwback to TOS crisis shows like "The Naked Time".
"Judgement", thus far, has been my favorite episode of the second season. I know it was a retread of Star Trek VI, but it was a GOOD retread. Seeing J. G. Hurtzler was great too. I liked seeing Duras' version of the events. Only two things I didn't like. One was, how did the klingons get ahold of Archer? I assume he voluntarily turned himself over. The other, I thought Archer's escape felt a little tacked on at the end. I was hoping for some exciting escape, not just walking out the door.
Actually, I assumed he was captured. Can't imagine him surrendering.
And yeah, the escape was pretty anti-climactic...
.But I forgive them because Hertzler's character was so interesting and gave us an amazing insight into the structures of Klingon society. It's pretty rare to see Klingons who aren't battle ready and hot to kill someone.
i watched "Cogenitor" this morning. Really good episode. I was suprised to see Trip take things so far with the congenitor, teaching it to read, etc. I love these kinds of episodes that deal with needing a prime directive. the ending was a shocker for sure. And of course, it was great to see Andreas Katsulas again.
Next episode is "Regeneration." I'll probably watch it after work.
Next episode is "Regeneration." I'll probably watch it after work.
ok, i watched "Regeneration." WOW! overall i liked it. it tied in good with First Contact. I can buy that the Borg sent a signal to the delta quadrant and that the ship Picard ran into in "Q Who" was already on its way to the Alpha Quadrant. What I don't buy is that starfleet had all these pictures and information on the Borg, yet Picard doesnt know what the Borg are; he has nothing to compare them to in their starfleet files. Somebody was slacking in the 22nd century.
Cogenitor is one of my all-time favorite Trek episodes. I thought that Trip's scenes with the cogenitor were sweet and I loved it when he introduced it to movies...
I liked it too. I never understood the wailing and gnashing of teeth over a Borg episode set in the 22nd century.
As for Picard et.al. not recognizing the Borg, why would they? The Borg incident was one relatively minor event in the mission of the NX-01 that ended with the destruction of the cyborgs. No matter how good your education, you are not going to be able to cram every single thing that ever happened in the history of SF into your head.
In "Q Who," the Ent-D crew, being in the Delta quadrant, simply never considered that a species that far from the Alpha quadrant had ever been to Earth. They never checked computer records -- why would they? They consulted Guinan because Picard knew her species was from this region of space.
22nd century Star Fleet had no way of knowing where the cyborgs came from. Yes, a message was dispatched in the direction of the Delta quadrant, but they had no way of knowing exactly where it was going.
And the only historical record of cyborgs visiting Earth came from Zephram Cochrane, who was chronically drunk at the time of their "invasion," and IIRC, he was only told they were from the future, but he never saw one and wasn't given that many details about them. And I don't recall any indication that Lily ever left a record of her experiences on Ent-D.
The bulk of grumbling came before the episode, when its particular content was unknown. However, there was very little confidence that the production would be any good since, well, Rick Berman and Brannon Braga had not convinced the masses that their every word was spun of the purest gold, and their previous entry in the ``meeting before the real first contact'' story line, ``Acquisition'' with an assist from ``Dear Doctor'', was a fiasco that absolutely and completely failed to given an explanation for how this ``pre-meeting'' made sense.
So with a premise that has to be done cleverly to not break continuity with what's gone before, and a track record that suggests cleverness is not to be relied on ... wariness is justified. That many people were fed up with the Borg by the time Voyager was through with them adds to the wariness and exhaustion.
That was a great episode. It showcased real trek, imo. Nice touches on prejudices, and overcoming them.
I finished "First Flight" and "Bounty." First Flight wasn't bad. It was nice to see some history on starfleet, in particular the warp flight program. Bounty was so-so, I liked the Archer/bounty hunter plot. Nice to see a tellarite. I liked the continuity with the Klingons. The T'Pol subplot, on the other hand, good grief! What was that? a desperate ratings ploy to show off jolene blalock? ugh.
I'm getting ready to start the season finale, "The Expanse."
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