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Neelix & Kes

She kinda looked like Tweety Bird too me. :lol:

I think because Tom saw someone like Be'Lanna was more his speed.
Remember in "Before & After", Kes was just the rebound girl/wife. Even then he admitted Be'Lanna was what he really wanted.

She was the Pinky Tuskaderio to his Arthur Fonzarelli.
Kes was more like Marion Cuttingham.
 
Her ridiculous hair cut brang me such joy. I mocked the hell of it till my throat went horse in the early days.

I wonder why Tom didn't make a run at her once she'd finished with Neelix after all the fuss the two of them made with that food fight in the mess figuring out who should be going steady with this over developed two year old?

She looked great in that haircut. It was not ridiculous.

As for Tom, I wonder the same thing. I saw more chemistry between him and Kes than between him and B'Elanna.
 
...If by chemistry you are refering to the analogy of oxidising metal.

B'Elanna was a much better match (IMO).
 
...If by chemistry you are refering to the analogy of oxidising metal.

B'Elanna was a much better match (IMO).

I'm not so sure of that. I think that Tom and Kes could have been a nice couple.

But I must admit that the Tom-B'Elanna pairing was actually OK. In fact, it's one of the few times when those in charge could come up with a realistic relationship and don't screw it up either.
 
the doc would never have given him the have sex with an alien permission in her case. to imagine kes as a passionate lover is quite a strain, anyway.
 
Glue excretes from her hands, to which she adheres to you semipermanently as she begins to spend the next 50 hours draining you of seed over and over again till she finally feels impregnated enough.

Elogium.
 
Glue excretes from her hands, to which she adheres to you semipermanently as she begins to spend the next 50 hours draining you of seed over and over again till she finally feels impregnated enough.

Elogium.
Geez... :lol:
I'm sure there must be some telepathic foreplay involved.
 
Glue excretes from her hands, to which she adheres to you semipermanently as she begins to spend the next 50 hours draining you of seed over and over again till she finally feels impregnated enough.

Elogium.
Geez... :lol:
I'm sure there must be some telepathic foreplay involved.
Yes, the mind rape is only the beginning of the fun. :lol:

Guy, forgot her sweating profusely & the vampyric color and glare in her eyes.

Que up: "Isn't She Lovely" by Stevie Wonder. :lol:
 
It starts with her father(figure ) rubbing her feet till they swell into Balloons, as if it's the fathers job to make sure his daughter can't run away from her suitors, to ensure that he can finally be free of his insane 3 year old albatross and go fishing all weekend.
 
that might make sense - the father fig rubbing the feet thing seemed a little creepy to me.
 
Oh dear, this thread seems to have become a thread where pre-pubertal kids explore their sexual fantasies. :rolleyes:

However, I have to admit that I'm wondering what the writers of the episode "Elogium" were on when they came up with all that crap about how the Ocampa mating rituals. Talk about ruining a species! First the silly nine year lifespan, then the "only one child" crap and then all the crap considering their mating. What were they thinking?
 
They might have been thinking: "I want to fill my bathtub upwith dirty 10 dollar bills and drown in my own decadence."

Sorry, Lynx, I just get miffed when people start going on about how sweet and innocent she was.
 
Well the Doctor saw him as a sexual rival, but I assumed that since they'd just met that the boinking wouldn't start till they began sharing that bathtub sized star ship if only that there's more room to breath if their body parts are overlapping.

Although certainly, if she was planning another platonic relationship, that little spud was going to get some regrettable blueballs and resentment.
 
Eh, I think there were just inherent problems with Kes' character. If they really wanted to sell us on the "Shorter lifespan" thing, they should've introduced her as a kid and then aged the character once every season (changing the actress as she went from kid to teen, then from teen to adult).
 
Well, from Before and After we saw that they zoom to seeminghumanprototwentyish in their first year, stabilize and then degenerate into geriatricacy and senility and finally death during the last months of hopefully thier ninth year.

Different actresses would have been awesome. But slowly, not like how with the Starchild in V or that Hotgirl from that 70s show in the 4400.

Peter David in one of his books said that Vulcan babies advance REALLY slowly. Sure they eventually become super geniuses, but humanoid babies with much shorter lifespans by comparison are walking and talking before a Vulcan baby can roll over because it takes longer for their huge brains to develop and all this other stuff is metered on a curve that their infancy would be proportionate to their middle-age and other reflections of their development.
 
Well, from Before and After we saw that they zoom to seeminghumanprototwentyish in their first year

Which is just further demonstration of lack of thought for the Ocampa's creation. You'd think they'd have to eat like nuts to make up for the accelerate growth.

Heck, the reproduction doesn't make much sense either. If they live that shortly, they should breed like rabbits instead of one child their whole life. Maybe sexuality would be one of their defining traits like with the Deltans. Just dig up whatever Roddenberry wrote about Deltans and apply them to Ocampa.
 
One of my insane theories is that the one child limitation is part of the unforgivable debt the Nacene inflicted on these people, because each generation has to be half the size of the last until there's just one kid left wondering what the word "crowd" means.

An opposing theory is that just because the Ocampa can only get pregnant once, it does't mean that they can only have one child per perpregnancy. If triplets or quadruplets were the norm, then their society would have a chance to grow.

Then of course the gender split may not be 50/50, and they as a people may not be monogomous, because kes's mother had her at the age of three but her father died near our girl's 1st birthday, so either her father died in an accident or men reach their "single" fertile moment near the end of their 8th year, which would suggest that emotional couplings between Ocampa would have males as second husbands raising other mens children and...

God help me.

Anyone else connected the dots on this one and come up with "Lolita"?

Well, that would be if the ocampan kids weren't mature enough to leave home by their first birthday when their pappies were shuffling off their mortal coils, but that was a dark place.

Imagine you had to bed and be trained to be a good husband by your eventual motherinlaw, who is also currently your first wife, waiting for your oneday wife to come of a child bearing age, who you are raising as your child.

I have altogether been watching far too much LEXX of late.
 
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