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NBA 2014-2015 Season Discussion

Most interesting selection to me is Pau as an east starter. Many fans, many in L.A., thought he was done after last season. The Lakers realized his value and REALLY tried to keep him. I'm glad that he is proving his critics wrong. This is furtehr evidence that Mike D'Antoni is a fever blister on the lips of (NBA coaching) life.

James Harden and Klay Thompson, for now, are mere players, Kobe is an icon. Both of those guys will have many years to get to where Kobe is now, in the eyes of fans around the world.

I just read last night that Aldridge is out for 6-8 weeks with some injury so looks like he won't be playing in the ASG either.

Silver lining to Kobe's season ending injury is that it further ensures that we'll keep our 1st round pick this year. Lakers as of a couple of days ago, ha the 4th worst record in the league. If we can stay in the bottom 5, we can jumo start our recovery.
 
Klay Thompson had himself an amazing night last night, dropping 37 in the third quarter and 9-9 on 3s. I didn't watch the Quarter, but I saw the highlights and holy crap how is that even possible.
 
Shaq was right: Sacramento Queens. :(

Why can't Vivek be like Cuban, Holt, Ballmer, or one of those owners? Yes, a new venue is being built and Sacramento gets to keep their beloved team, but in terms of competence, not sure this guy is any better than the Maloofs toward the end of their time.
 
The more I reflect on this, the more appalling I think it is. "This might not be the job for her." Now Chris Paul is denying it had anything to do with her gender. If it was a male referee, he would only have said it was a terrible call, not that the referee was in the wrong line of work.
 
JirinPanthosa said:
The more I reflect on this, the more appalling I think it is. "This might not be the job for her." Now Chris Paul is denying it had anything to do with her gender. If it was a male referee, he would only have said it was a terrible call, not that the referee was in the wrong line of work.
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I don't know. Mark Cuban alleged that several referees weren't qualified to work at Dairy Queen, much less officiate professional basketball games (which led to his working at DQ for a day). I don't necessarily think Paul's comments were gender-related, though I do think he should have played his cards closer to the vest and limited his remarks to "It was a terrible call," so that the vultures wouldn't have had anything to feed on.

Lauren Holtcamp has worked WNBA games in the past. I wonder what the response might have been had these comments come from Sue Bird as opposed to Chris Paul.
 
JirinPanthosa said:
The more I reflect on this, the more appalling I think it is. "This might not be the job for her." Now Chris Paul is denying it had anything to do with her gender. If it was a male referee, he would only have said it was a terrible call, not that the referee was in the wrong line of work.
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I've thought about it, but I can't agree. Although, we both have to concede that we'll never know the counterfactual by definition of it being a counterfactual. I'll also say something else that I hope is obvious, there can't be anything wrong with the use of the words "she" or "her" (if he had said "not the job for him" there, it certainly would have been weirder).

So it's the question of the general implication of the statement. Certainly, the concern is that he's accusing her of being overly sensitive. Sensitivity is a stereotype associated with women and his comment might be playing on those assumptions. On the other hand, I don't think they necessarily are. It's possible his comments are directed at someone who is new and it's possible that he's saying someone who is new and isn't allowing the same kind of leeway that is customary in the league isn't going to last long.

I'm not saying that Chris Paul isn't being sexist, but I do think it's sufficiently ambiguous based on what he said that he gets the benefit of the doubt. If he's done things similar in the past or he does things like this again, then this incident will be seen in a more negative light, but I think, on its own, it could be interpreted either way and it's unfair to assume the worst, especially after he clarified his statement.
 
I would agree, were this a court case, he would be 'Not guilty by reasonable doubt'.

But I don't see the sports community applying the same kindness to baseball players accused of steroid usage or Tom Brady.
 
^What does Tom Brady have to do with this? Are there any lengths the Patriots and their fans won't go to draw attention to themselves? As much as I've heard people crying about New England being persecuted unfairly (and I do think the deflation issue was blown out of proportion, pardon the pun), I can't help but wonder if part of the problem is related to the Patriots drawing so much attention to themselves (for any reason).

--Sran
 
Very few have said that Tom Brady is responsible and I think the same standard applies to him as Chris Paul. It's not just proof beyond a reasonable doubt, it's that it's unfair to tar someone from such an ambiguous statement without more reason to think ill-intent. I think it's possible it was a sexist comment, but it's too much of a stretch to even say it is probable.

Don't get me started on steroids. The sheer hypocrisy of casting every strong slugger as a steroid user while (generally speaking) ignoring pitchers who probably benefited more from steroid use is astounding.
 
^Well said. I'll add that I stand by the point I made in an earlier post. Would people be as outraged had someone like Sue Bird (Paul's WNBA counterpart for anyone not familiar with her) made these comments? For that matter, would people be as upset had Bird made comments like these regarding a young male official? Mind you, I've never known Sue Bird to say anything inappropriate--save for an on-air interview in which she agreed to let a radio host spank her if her assist-to-turnover ratio was too low, an incident she quickly apologized for.

It's easy to assume that a comment made by a man about a woman is sexist, but that's not necessarily the case. Paul's comments were ambiguous at worst. I don't have a problem with him being fined, as he was clearly in the wrong for criticizing an official--something prohibited by league policy. But to assume that he meant his comments in a way that's demeaning to women because he's a man is unfair--and is itself sexist.

--Sran
 
It's a frustrating time to be a Suns fan.

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That 8 spot is gonna be hotly contested. Maybe even by the SPURS for crying out loud.

Karl coaching Cuz? Hello 8 spot maybe next year.
 
Borgminister said:
Captrek said:
gblews said:
Seems like same old no (clutch) defense Suns to me. :D
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Yes, it's always a frustrating time to be a Suns fan.
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Try being a Kings fan... :(
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Speaking of the Kings, I saw some surprisingly measured and mature sounding quotes from Cousins on the Kings possibly signing George Karl. It wasn't a ringing endorsement of the hire but it was FAR from a trade demand if they do hire Karl. Hopefully, he'll take a wait ans see attitude and at least try to work with him.

IMO, for the Kings, hiring Karl would be like the Clippers hiring Doc; it is a sign that current ownership might actually be serious about winning. For Cous, Karl might be the best thing that's happened to the guy -- or could be the thing that does send him elswhere.
 
What did Cousins do that has Gary Payton so upset?

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"Leave your agent alone"? What does that mean?
 
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